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External Drive Question

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by islesfan, Dec 24, 2012.

  1. islesfan

    islesfan Hall Of Fame

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    I was thinking of adding an external drive to my HR20. I was looking at the following item:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00829THQE

    My questions:
    1. Will this drive work with my HR20?
    2. About how much recording space will I get with a 3TB external drive?
    3. What do I do to set it up?
    4. Will I lose all of the recordings that I currently have on the HR20 if I do this? (not a huge deal, just means I'll have to watch a bunch of NCIS over the next few days)
     
  2. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    1. no
    2. nothing
    3. nothing
    4. no
     
  3. islesfan

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    Can you tell me what I would need for an external drive? Can you recommend one that would work?
     
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    Davenlr Geek til I die

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  5. RunnerFL

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    You need an eSATA enclosure/dock and a drive with max capacity of 2TB for an HR20. USB only won't work and going with 3TB wastes 1TB and your money.
     
  6. TomCat

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    There is a very long thread on this that usually remains in the first page of posts. If you want answers they are in there. Or you can just get what the consensus of the thread says, which is any WD Caviar Green drive (EURX is designed for DVRs) and either a ThermalTake or Antec enclosure.

    You are not looking for a drive/enclosure combination that "works", you are looking for maximum reliability and minimum problems. Nearly any bargain-basement eSATA drive from the closeout bin at Fry's will "work", but for how long and how well? Since there is no real practical way to back any of these DVR drives up, it is not fun when 400 hours of recordings disappear overnight.
     
  7. Rich

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    Nice post Tom. Do you think my method of backing up programs isn't "practical".... :lol:

    Rich
     
  8. TomCat

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    Rich, I honestly do not know of a practical way other than my way, and some would call that impractical (dual record on multiple DVRs). My comment was generic for the sake of brevity (trying to turn over a new leaf :))

    Also, I am not familiar with your method. I would be eager to hear of a method that is practical, or even of one you consider practical.

    Of course we have hijacked the thread; unless you feel that it is beneficial to all, please PM me.

    What about the Nomad. Does anyone have experience with that? Is that practical? Not really knowing, my best guess would be that if I record 20 hrs a week of TV, that it would probably take me the other 148 hours in the week to back them up that way. But I just don't know.

    Happy Holidays, and Feliz Navi, dudes.
     
  9. TomCat

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    Well, while force-watching NCIS should be governed by the Geneva convention:

    2) A 2 TB drive can hold somewhere between 460-480 hours of MPEG-4 HD video. Going 3 TB, even if that were possible, seems like excess, and a risk not worth taking.

    3) Just connect and reboot. The HDR+ uses a hybrid storage system, meaning part of the data and OS is in flash, and part is on the HDD. If you install a bare drive, it will set it up for you. Works pretty neatly, BTW.

    4) You SHOULD not. Anytime you do anything slightly out of the ordinary with a HDD, you increase the risk of data loss, but odds are extremely slight that this will be a problem.​
    The good news: you can have stuff on both drives. The bad news: you can only mount one drive at a time, meaning it takes a reboot to switch drives.

    But that is simple; you don't even need to juggle cables. To go to the x drive, power it up for 30 seconds and then do a menu reboot; the x drive will take priority. To go back to the internal, do a menu reboot and turn the power to the x drive off just after the reboot begins, and it will boot to the internal.
     
  10. Rich

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    I think most of the good stuff I've learned has been off-topic. I have 12 HRs with 2TB HDDs either in them or on them. Every program recorded is backed up on multiple HRs and I've never lost a program. That I know of. For anyone that's interested, 24TBs is a ridiculous amount of storage.

    Richierich has a Nomad, you might ask him.

    Rich
     
  11. TomCat

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    So your strategy is essentially the same as mine, only I have 4 DVRs with 2 TB on each, and I have still managed to "misplace" a program or two (but I've had 3 drives go belly-up this year). So I guess my setup is only 1/3 as ridiculous :).

    I agree; OT is the real gold mine here. Not trying to be a hall monitor, just trying to be polite to the OP. :)
     
  12. Rich

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    I meant the 24TBs of capacity is really a lot more than anyone needs. Just became something of a hobby for me.

    When folks go off-topic with something worthwhile nobody seems to really mind all that much. When folks go off-topic with nonsense, that's when the Mods seem to step in and I think that's as it should be.

    Rich
     

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