External Hard Drive Advice

Discussion in 'ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum' started by Don M, Aug 14, 2007.

  1. Ron Barry

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    1) Larger harder drive. Go from 30HD hours to 55HD hours (estimated)
    2) 722 is VC-1 encoding capability. Though not enabled at some point this might be beneficial.
    3) Black box.
    4) Some reports of it being a little quieter.

    There is some minor internal differences but that is the main bullet points.
     
  2. Rob Glasser

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    Check out this thread, it will show you all the differences: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=94818

    Basically it's black, it had a bigger hard drive, and it's supposed to have VC-1 support for HD OnDemand in the future. Other than that it's the same.
     
  3. yence99

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    How much more HD recording space to do you gain by connecting, say a 500 MB external harddrive?
     
  4. JudH

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    For those reporting that the Maxtor OneTouch III 750GB works can you be more specific? There are *3* Maxtor OT III's: The T01H750 with USB2 only, the T01G750 with USB2+Firewire400 and the T01W750 with USB2+Firewire400/800. Do all of these work or just the USB-only model (which appears to be scarce). Frys has the W for $270 and the G for $184 but not the H (which is $210 from Amazon).
     
  5. TBoneit

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    You don't directly gain recording space since you can not record to the EHD.

    However you gain space by moving already recorded to the EHD freeing up space on the internal drive. So in effect if you moved everything to the EHD then you would be back to the original recording hours and still be able to play on TV1 from the EHD.
     
  6. yence99

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    My 622 operates in dual mode and I just noticed that I cannot access recordings saved on the external hard drive from the 2 TV. Is this normal or do I need to change a setting? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
     
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    TBoneit

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    Normal. You need to move them back to the DVR to see them on TV2.
     
  8. cwittig

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    Well, for a week I was NOT able to see any of the media previously saved using the earlier 622. Last week I hooked the drive up resigned to having to reformat it and was surprised to see a message telling me that the drive was configured under an earlier receiver and asking me if I wanted to let it run under the new receiver. Lo and behold I had all my recordings available. I did nothing different during the previous week that I plugged and unplugged the drive while spending time with tech support.

    I can only guess that Dish may have pushed down some sort of update.
     
  9. Ron Barry

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    L4.45 came out this week. Perhaps that fixed something.
     
  10. SteveinDanville

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    I have the 750 gig version, and I'd like to know the answer too. The WD website said that this EHD would go into sleep mode when the "computer" was turned off and wake up when it was turned on. How do you know if it has indeed spun down? Hours after turning off my 622, the green light on the EHD is on and I hear spinning and feel a slight vibration from the drive. Any help out there?
     
  11. TBoneit

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    The difference is that the 622/722 unlike a computer are never off. Even when it is off, Screensaver mode that is. It is on.

    I start sending things to the EHD, Turn off the TV set, Turn off the 622 and it keeps on sending to the EHD... WD EHD activity light blinks until the sending is done.

    In a computer the USB goes off when the computer is off, The 622 it is all still working. Timers, guide update, firmware updates and so on....
     
  12. SteveinDanville

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    Now I get it; thank you very much for the simple explanation.
     
  13. guyverdh

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    Be sure to check to see whether or not the external hard drive automatically spins down to *conserve power*.

    Seagate FreeAgent external drives do this after 15 minutes.
    Download the FreeAgent software from Seagate, run it, enter utilities, set spin-down timer to "Never". Otherwise you will have all kinds of errors trying to send data to the drive, watching content from the archive drive, etc...

    I have sent Dish Network technical information on how to *fix* the receiver's linux system so that it will automatically enable re-start for external drives that have the spin-down feature active. Until this is integrated into a future release, use whatever software is available for your external hard drive to make certain this feature is disabled.

    Things that wouldn't work after a spin-down:

    Sending recordings to the archive.
    Watching an item off the archive, pausing would not show status bar - would require hitting skip forward or skip back to resume play. Hitting play/stop after pause would do nothing. Hitting stop while playing would take you back to a "Start/Done" menu. It never showed "Resume" on the menu.
    Restoring items off the archive, would result in items on both the internal hard drive and still on the archive.

    Just an FYI.
     
  14. guyverdh

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    Oh - and we need to push Dish network to allow us to see content from the USB archive on either tuner ont the 622 when in Dual mode. I can understand only allowing one tuner to watch from the external at a time, however, it should be able to be used from either. There's really no reason not to be able to - aside from the fact that they didn't take the time to implement it.
     
  15. Jim148

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    I am starting to do the research on selecting an external. If I go large, what are some of the better 750GB HD that are known to be compatible with the 622/722 line?

    Also, I thought I saw a list somewhere here of HDs known to work with these, but I can't seem to locate them tonight. Maybe it is just too late and/or I am just too tired.

    Can I, for example, just pick one of the Western Digital External Hard Drives from Wal-Mart and be done with it, or isn't it quite that simple?

    http://www.walmart.com/search/searc...tinue.x=16&Continue.y=8&Continue=Find&ic=24_0
     
  16. lenny

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    Look at http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=95896
    I don't feel the thread starter has been updating his original post so you may want to look at all the posts on that thread to. I personally built my own 750GB drive which is one of the posts in the thread.
     
  17. HobbyTalk

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    Yes, the list is up to date.
     
  18. jrb531

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    FYI I just took an old internal HD I had on the shelf and put it into a $15 USB case and it worked just fine.

    I'm going to buy a larger HD now and swap the drives now that I know this $15 el-cheapo USB case works with the 622.

    I'm almost thinking this is the better way to go as if the HD ever fails I can just pop in any old HD I have sitting around instead of having to chuck out the entire external HD setup.

    -JB
     
  19. HobbyTalk

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    You wouldn't have to chuck it. Just open it up and put in another drive.
     
  20. guyverdh

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    Many external hard drive chassis come with welded cages around the drive. Getting the drive out ruins this cage making it nearly impossible to re-use.

    An inexpensive usb to ide or usb to sata enclosure is definitely a good way to go as they tend to skip implementing features that could potentially cause problems.
     

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