Thought we were past this. But today on my HR 21 all of a sudden the guide takes about 30-40 seconds to come up. Channel changes using the guide take almost a minute. Inputting the channel number to change channels or go to that channel in the guide is almost useless because each digit takes so long to appear that you can never get to it. I restarted the receiver with no improvement. A prior update seemed to improve this quite a bit but if we're going back this I'd rather ditch the whole service and just go to watching stuff off the air. At least I wouldn't have to worry about what channels get dropped from my package, and the tuner on my tv is like the speed of light compared to these things.