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FCC Approves XM-Sirius Deal

Discussion in 'Sirius XM General Discussion' started by syphix, Jul 25, 2008.

  1. Jul 28, 2008 #81 of 248
    redfiver

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    The problem is, the two don't only compete with each other. They directly compete with HD Radio, regular radio and iPods. Thinking they only compete with each other is just silly talk. They are trying to get people to buy their service over getting free (but with commercials) radio. Now, the combined company can concentrate on quality programming instead of how to steal subscribers from each other. Then, they can grow their installed base and raise shareholder value.

    For those who talk about the law the FCC enacted when they first allowed Satellite Radio...that's also silly talk. Laws are meant to be changed, which is what XM/Sirius was asking them to do. Laws are changed and modified every day. I hope you're not saying that every law, once enacted, must stay for all time. The world changes, our laws must change with them.

    I'm normally against large companies merging, but in this instance, it makes sense. This is the first good decision the FCC has made in a very long string of bad decisions.
     
  2. Jul 28, 2008 #82 of 248
    reddice

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    I like some channels on Sirius better than XM others on XM more than Sirius. For example First Wave on Sirius is way better than that obscure never heard this song junk they play on Fred. However I am afraid that Sirius would mess up the Dance channels on XM. I enjoy they way better than Sirius. Also I don't look forward to more one artist crap. I wonder if the music program director for XM would still work for the combined company.

    Also I don't like down the road that I will have to buy all new hardware. I know they say that you wont have too but if they are going to combine both spectrum and satellites you are going to need new radios.
     
  3. Jul 28, 2008 #83 of 248
    Lee L

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    Good to see someone else who has the same exact concerns that I do. So many people are so wrapped up in the propaganda that XM and Sirius are putting out that they are not seeing this clearly IMO.

    I agree this whole mess is a bad deal for the consumer.

    And Here, I like Fred, because I recgnize most of the songs there and actually wish they would go deeper. I do not want shallow playlists as there is no point in haveing 14 different "rock" channels if you cannot have some good diversity. I can get shallow playlists right now on FM.

    I do agree about the dance channels though.

    My main fear is that they will try to get joe sixpack to subscribe and make everything a shallow list that covers only the hits of a genre and they will pre-record all the DJ's like Sirius. Then they will wonder what went wrong as J6P will not sub to this no matter what and the people who liked it will be gone too.
     
  4. Jul 28, 2008 #84 of 248
    Steve Mehs

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    I don't care. I'd love to cancel all my subscriptions right now on principle. This 'merger' SUCKS! Period. But I don't have it in me to cancel just yet. I find value in each and every little thing I like about XM and Sirius. If something is removed or changed and I'm not happy, I no longer find value, and therefore I will no longer subscribe. Understand now?
     
  5. Jul 28, 2008 #85 of 248
    Tom Robertson

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    Of course, if you are dissatisfied with the service you should cancel. Your word choices make it sound like you are willing to cancel even tho you aren't that dissatisfied.

    Hence the nose/spite/face comments. Just a humorous response to what many perceive as an overreaction. Your perceptions are welcomed to vary from ours. :)

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  6. Jul 28, 2008 #86 of 248
    Steve Mehs

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    Nothing anyone will ever say or do will ever convince me satellite radio competes with the iPod, that is just plan retarded. Live v prerecorded. 10 years ago would it be logical to say the CD competes with terrestrial radio? Satellite radio and terrestrial radio are two competing industries, XM and Sirius (and only XM and Sirius) were direct competitors, XM and the local Clear Channel owned Top 40 station are not. XM and Sirius constantly trying to one up each other made for wonderful competition, not even just on the programming side, but hardware. Artist/Song Alerts, Radios with buffers for DVR like functionality, nice portable radios with MP3 capability, sharp color displays. Yep the so called competition with terrestrial radio caused all that to happen :rolleyes:
     
  7. Jul 28, 2008 #87 of 248
    spartanstew

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    When you get a bit older Steve, you'll realize that sometimes in life you can't have everything.

    When that happens, taking your ball and going home is not always the wise option. Sometimes it's much more satisfying to stick around and play.
     
  8. Jul 28, 2008 #88 of 248
    Steve Mehs

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    Don't you dare lecture me! This is friggen satellite radio, not something that matters if the sun rises or not. And I AM NOT canceling now, and if I did what difference would it make to me, it's my 'loss' (if you want to call it that) not yours. I have no interest in supporting the combined company if they make any changes to my disliking. Satellite radio was fine the way it was. I'll stick around and play until changes are made until then if you care to spot me the $50/month I pay for radio, I'll stay.
     
  9. Jul 28, 2008 #89 of 248
    ThunderRoad

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    And that's why we can be glad we live in America....LOL....if a person finds something isn't to their liking there's nothing saying you have to continue spending $50/month. It doesn't make sense to continue spending money every month on something you don't like.
     
  10. Jul 28, 2008 #90 of 248
    Tom Robertson

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    He dare because he care... (so I presume.)

    Yes, this is "just satellite radio" and obviously something you are passionate about.

    Anyway, back to topic, the merger is coming. I have more questions than answers, but I don't need any answered quite yet. I do have a renewal coming up soon, we'll see how XM handles that. :)

    Cheers,
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  11. Jul 28, 2008 #91 of 248
    syphix

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    It's officially official! The FCC has posted it on their site with opinions.
    http://www.fcc.gov

    Sirius News & Rumors also states:
     
  12. Jul 28, 2008 #92 of 248
    Greg Alsobrook

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    Good stuff! Thanks for the update syphix! :)
     
  13. Jul 28, 2008 #93 of 248
    spartanstew

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    You'd be better off canceling now and getting on with your life, because there will be changes (including ones I'm sure you won't like). Count on it.

    I do now how you feel though. I thought the same thing once. I swore I'd never watch HR Pufnstuff again if they ever did a spin off. Sure enough, along came Lidsville. Even though I sometimes miss it, I haven't watched it since, mainly out of spite.
     
  14. Jul 28, 2008 #94 of 248
    tcusta00

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    Are you serious? I have never once said that XM has billed, advertised, put forward, bought billboards, magazine ads, TV time or subliminally said that they don't advertise. Yes, I am freely admitting, and never stated otherwise, that it is indeed I who am not a fan of the advertising, and it is indeed my own fault (since you're obviously looking for someone to blame here) for subscribing to something and then being dissatisfied with it, regardless of how much, in what manner and how often it may or may not have been advertised. God only knows I'm the first person who's even done that. :nono2: :rolleyes:

    Now, if you're very well done picking on me, we'll return to our regularly scheduled thread that doesn't include the Mehs-hour of "I'm better than you and here's why." :nono2:
     
  15. Jul 28, 2008 #95 of 248
    darklight

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    I too will be sad if The System goes away as I do devote an unhealthy amount of time listening to it on the road or at night. Equally so for XM Chill and Lucy.

    I will wait and see what happens before I make a decision on this. I'm only paying for the receiver I bought for my car, and it comes with the DirecTV package. Unless DirecTV moves to Music Choice(man I hope not) or something similar, I'm sure I'll be able to find something to listen to.
     
  16. Jul 28, 2008 #96 of 248
    Frrrunkis!

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    Look at it this way. Mel and co. were complaining about how they compete with iPods and terrestrial radio. And I do agree with that to an extent. I do believe, especially with how both companies treated each other thru the years, that XM and Sirius were also in direct competition with each other.

    The problem I've got with this and why I consider it more of a monopoly...is that this merger absolutely discourages anyone from starting another satellite radio company. I mean, think about it...the lone massive 18 million subscriber satrad company with exclusive contracts with all major sports, Howard Stern, O&A, even Oprah, and Martha Stewart...who in their right mind would even consider starting at satrad company?! XM-Sirius no longer have to worry about another company.
     
  17. Jul 28, 2008 #97 of 248
    xmguy

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    I have XM. I'm praying they don't take the FULL BBC World Service!!
     
  18. Jul 28, 2008 #98 of 248
    Christopher Gould

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    XM uses 2 geo satellite locations, they use ground repeaters to help out. Sirius does not, they use 3 low orbit, where only 2 are visiable at all times.
     
  19. Jul 28, 2008 #99 of 248
    syphix

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    The first "casualty" of the merger might be coming in 65 days...
    http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/for-opie-anthony-fans-another-clock-keeps-ticking.html
     
  20. syphix

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    Adding to that, XM has 4 satellites in orbit: Rock, Roll, Rhythm and Blues (XM-1, XM-2, XM-3, & XM-4). XM-1 and XM-2 are in orbit spares.(1) SIRIUS has a ground spare that is MAY be launched in 2009/2010 into a geosynchronous orbit, similar to XM's. (has a definite decision been made about this?)


    (1) http://xmradio.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=1404
     

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