FCC Grants Approval of AT&T-DIRECTV Transaction - Acquisition Completed

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  1. Aug 7, 2015 #201 of 321
    Incompetent

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    Cyclone going away, also I have heard that lots of the installer network is going away once ATT trains its techs. Anyone have info on that?
     
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    Because of the frequency that AT&T wireless uses, I cannot get a signal in my house. The only carriers that I can use are Sprint and Verizon. If I go outside, I can get four bars with AT&T, but only Sprint and Verizon use a frequency that will penetrate the walls of my house.
     
  3. Aug 7, 2015 #203 of 321
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    For Internet and home phone I have TWC and wireless I have Sprint. I don't know yet if if I will bundle with ATT and ATT Wireless. I will wait for about 6 months and look at the reviews


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  4. Aug 7, 2015 #204 of 321
    jimmie57

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    My daughter had that problem with her ATT phones also. She went to the store and complained. They gave her a device that hooks up in the house and it boosted her signals . She now has a strong signal in the house and does not drop calls anymore.
     
  5. Aug 7, 2015 #205 of 321
    slice1900

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    They have installers to handle their Uverse areas today, and the installers who handle Directv. It still takes the same amount of time to install each as it did before the merger. They can save some time by having one installer do both Directv and Uverse internet in a single visit when one customer is getting both, which allows them to cut back some but isn't likely to be a huge savings. Just the normal attrition of Directv installers leaving while the Uverse guys are trained may take care of it. If they do have to cut back on Directv installers most likely they'd cut the contractors, since that doesn't cost them anything while laying off the Directv employed installers would.

    Outside the Uverse areas they'll need exactly as many Directv installers as before, and eventually more when they start getting LTE to the rural areas and offered fixed wireless broadband and there's more work to do installing that.

    Of course they could decide they want their installers to all be employees, and get rid of all the contractors at some point, but if they did that they'd probably end up hiring a bunch of them on as full time employees.
     
  6. Aug 7, 2015 #206 of 321
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    AT&T only has landline service in 22 states, and even in those states it's not the entire area. DirecTV is rare among TV and internet and other in-home providers in that they have a 100% geographic coverage.

    Where there is overlap, yeah, eventually the two networks of installers will merge. Will that mean they're entirely U-Verse installers or old DirecTV installers? Who knows, probably a mix of both. Biggest danger is if you are a contractor in those areas. If they keep DirecTV installers, direct employees will probably have priority (of course this is all speculation, I have zero knowledge nor have they made any statements or hints)

    Where AT&T doesn't offer U-Verse or any other landline service, then it probably won't change that much, other than maybe they'd go all in-house, but in that case the contractors would likely get hired up by AT&T. As a matter of fact AT&T is going to roll out LTE based home internet outside of their 22-state wireline footprint, so there is likely to be an increase in the need for installers, not less.
     
  7. Aug 7, 2015 #207 of 321
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    Most companies would disagree with you on that front. It seems as thus most HSPs love contractors since they don't have all the overhead W-2 employees have.
     
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    The employees would be the first to go for sure.

    It cost far more for an employee then a sub contractor.

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  9. Aug 7, 2015 #209 of 321
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    If that's the case, why didn't AT&T dump the Uverse installer employees years ago and just use contractors? Contractors are cheaper if you have to hire/fire often due to changing demand, but the much higher rate of contractor turnover adds cost in terms of poor installs, lost consumers, etc.
     
  10. Aug 8, 2015 #210 of 321
    peds48

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    they have to keep a few employees to clean up the mess left by subs. Most jobs by Directv in certain markets are done by subs. NYC is one of those markets. It will be ridiculous expensive to have employees in NYC.


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  11. Aug 8, 2015 #211 of 321
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    But the courts say you can control them like employees. So it can be better to make them all W2.
     
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    I know in a couple of states, at least, there are union issues and politicians who need the unions votes who won't let AT&T and other similar companies dump employees for contractors.
     
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    Two words: Union contracts
     
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    just because you can control them like employees it does not necessarily means that you get all the baggage that comes with employees.


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    There are philosophies either way. For example Charter has been drastically reducing its contractor count and going in-house with both their call centers and their installers, and they are a non-union company.

    AT&T has the added complication of union contracts, but that is probably not the only thing they consider. I would expect the trend to be towards in-house employees for the combined AT&T/DirecTV, that's just the way they've operated for a long time.
     
  16. Diana C

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    Read some of the court cases filed against Uber by various states, cities and the Department of Labor...the term "contractor" is being redefined. The government is taking the position that if you control how a "contractor" gets business, how they service that business, and what the standards of operation are, then you don't have a contractor, you have an employee (and incur all the costs and responsibilities of being the individual's employer).
     
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    Keep in mind that ATT has decided to keep the HSP network (for now at least) and what the HSP does, ATT has no say, as long as the HSP meet ATT metrics. Some HSPs have recently increased their (sub)contractor count.
     
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    The device is called Microcell, the latest model is about 4x4 inches and gets connected to your internet router so calls go thru the internet. Before installing it the best signal I had in the house was 2 bars in a sweet spot, now its 5 bars in the whole house. Don't ask me how it works, it just does.
     
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    I will tell you how it works it is called voice over Internet Protocol
     
  20. peds48

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    T-Mobile fixed this a long time ago by enabling WiFi calling! I heard ATT is getting on that bandwagon pretty soon.
     

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