The lack of an OTA channel guide is making recording shows a bit of a hassle for me. I tried to just go to the guide and click on an OTA channel time slot to record it, even though there is no event information. It won't do it, the reason is that it has no event times. I think it would be nice if they could just make "default" events that ocurred in increments of 30 minutes, or an hour. Then I could click on a "local programming" event and record it, even though the guide doesn't know anything about the event. Then I could simply change the event's start or end time to get what I wanted. It would just make the timer process easier. I also thought about trying to record a satellite local, then change the channel. I thought they would appear in the guide, even though I don't have a subscription to them. They don't appear in the guide for me. I was looking in the 8500 range. Am I missing something? I selected the guide to show "all channels". Not being able to watch KBHK in the SF Bay Area has been a thorn in the paw so to speak. Does anyone know if you actually need to have an activaed subscription for the dish 6000 for it to tune into OTA channels? Is it enough for it just to see channel 101 to be able to tune OTA??