Finally, a Skinny Bundle! ‘Don't Watch, Don't Pay' with DISH's New Flex Pack

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  1. WelcomeBackKotter

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    After having had most Dish packages over the many years I've dealt with them, including for a month the Flex pack, I've made what is, for me, a final decision on these packages. Welcome is the most cost-effective and has 90% of the channels that I need. I can sacrifice 10% of the channels that I like for the cost. Flex doesn't have RT, so that pretty well ends Flex as an alternative. Dish America does have RT, I believe. Dish America is in essence a bigger Welcome pack. However, the cost of $49.99, being more than double Welcome's cost, is rough, but TV Land is in Dish America. Flex has the advantage of a $5 autopay discount, bringing it down to $29.99, but $10 for locals and $10 for the news pack brings it back up to $49.99, the same as Dish America. Dish America includes ESPN 1 and ESPN2, not so valuable channels to me, but maybe someone in the home would watch them occasionally. Dish America also has a reasonable number of news channels plus GSN. (Dish America $49.99 cost is $30.00 higher than Welcome, but $3 is saved with GSN being included in Dish America.) In the case of Dish America and Flex, there's not much room to maneuver with future price increases. Once again, Welcome comes in at the top, and cost is what propels it to the top. In second (overall) place, I would put Dish America and third, Flex. With the competition from Internet providers, I am very hard-pressed to consider any pack that costs more than $49.99.
     
  2. mwdxer

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    If the customer has high speed internet, wifi the house and get a Roku. That way the vast majority of English language International news channels like BBC and RT are free on the Roku. If you like RT, then the RT Documentary channel is something else you will enjoy. It is free with the RT app on the Roku. Lots of interesting history on Russia and also other European areas.
     
  3. xmguy

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    How does one find these?
     
  4. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Walmart or many other fine retailers.
     
  5. jsk

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    Does Dish pay for RT since it is available for free elsewhere? If not, why isn't it on the Flex pack?
     
  6. mwdxer

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    I bought my Roku LT back in 2013 and it has been a very good investment. You can still buy the Roku for $50. I think the streaming stick is even less. There are now over 4,000 different channels available and most are free. I think when I bought mine in 2013, there was 1,000 channels. Many of the channels have plenty of sub channels. So there are thousands of choices. I have a big dish, I rarely use except for a few OTA sub channel fare like METV, etc are FTA. But I am the Roku a lot of the time. Check out the Roku website, at Roku.com. You can click on channels and see what Roku has to offer. You can check out Private channels too. A lot of the International channels are there.

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  7. mwdxer

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    I checked again and I am getting to the point where I watch more streaming and DVD's I have collected of old TV series. So, unless things change before now and January when my discounts drop off from Dish, and I go back to $105 a month for AT250/Supers/Movies, I believe I will switch to the Welcome Pack/Movies/Encore pack/and keep Supers. That will drop me below $45 a month. I will lose all Sports channels, which I could care less about. I will lose a few I watch on occasion, but nothing I cannot live without. Some of those are free online or on the Roku. Most of the old TV shows that the channels carry on Dish, I have, at least the ones I like. We have several classic TV OTA channel now, METV, The Comet, Get TV, Decades, Cozi & Laff. I remember having AT250, or whatever it was called some years ago for $50 Yes, quite a few new channels have been added to the pack, but not enough to warrant a $30 increase through the years, and too many additional sports channels. Then of course by early 2017 we will have another increase. Add to that the new channels that Dish added are not available in AT250. All of it together, I have decided to change, which I thought I would do, as I do like the variety in AT250, but like with others the cost is getting too expensive for TV.
     
  8. Blowgun

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    If you did change your account, are you sure you would be able to keep the Supers?
     
  9. mwdxer

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    When I spoke to a CSR sometime back, she said I could. The only reason I would lose them, if I dropped them and then tried to get them back. No issue as long as I continually keep them, even when changing packages.
     
  10. tampa8

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    Maybe I'm not adding it up correctly. Wouldn't the Flex Pack with $5 autopay, the DISH movie Pack, Encore pack and supers be about $49 -$50 or so, about $10 more than the Welcome pack but with dozens of more channels? If the lowest price is the objective or really you just don't want the other channels then I see the Welcome package.
    Also you could drop what you pay now by $15 a month to about $90 if you wanted to. Or by $20 if you keep Encore with the Top 200 that is really close now to the Top 250 and it would be about $85. And if you do a two year contract on either of those there will be no package increase for two years.
     
  11. mwdxer

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    Thanks. There may be other options I have not looked at as yet, but cutting my bill in half sounds great. I just wish there was a way to have a pack like AT250 without all of the sports channels. I really enjoy a lot of what is on there, even though I am unhappy with not having the new VH1/MTV pack & BBC World. For what we pay, those channels should have been added to AT250. One channel I will miss is TCM, but unfortunately there is no way to get it without at least AT200. It doesn't seem to be available in a smaller add on pack either. TCM doesn't even stream. FXM and AMC now run ads, so I never watch them. I have friends in Canada that have Shaw Satellite and they buy a basic pack and have a lot of packs with 5 or 6 channels. It is easier to get what you want. I will keep looking until my discounts drop off in January. Maybe there will be an alternative I like better.
     
  12. lparsons21

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    TCM is in the Flex Pack.


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  13. mwdxer

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    It is? Thanks. Now Flex Pack is an option then. I'll will check into it more once it gets closer. I clicked on TCM on the Dish Website and it stated that it was only available in AT200 or AT250 though.
     
  14. mwdxer

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    I went and checked again and found AMC in the Flex Pack, but I did not see TCM. Also it was not listed in the add on packs either. Has it been add since the original info came on on the Flex pack?
     
  15. lparsons21

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    Go to mydish.com and get the latest channel guide pdf, it shows it there. The regular web pages about Flex Pack don't show it, but then again, they don't show a few other channels there either. I got the Flex Pack early on and got TCM from the start.


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  16. mwdxer

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    Thanks. I am still considering my options, but at least TCM is in Flex. There are a few add ons. that may not be allowed under Flex. Now with the Welcome Pack the Encore pack is available, but I guess with Flex the same ad on channels are not available.
    What I was looking at is Flex, News, Encore, Movie Pack, and Super Stations. Now I have AT250, Movie Pack, and Supers. Would that be allowed? It would still save me a fair amount each month. With the Welcome Pack, I could still keep Supers, but with the new card with Flex, that may not be allowed. I do not want to lose them.
    Also for those who has BBC World, is it add free, or are there a lot of US ads on there? The streaming is ad free.

    Patrick
     
  17. KyL416

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    The only legal feed in the USA is the one with ads, it's the same feed carried by Dish, DirecTV and other North American providers.

    That ad-free streaming feed you're watching on Roku is stolen from Livestation, which is why it's only available via a 3rd party private app and the official app doesn't have it in the USA. The BBC flat out says it is not available for streaming in the USA:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-radio-and-tv-14563857
    It's blacked out in the USA because they went the commercial route here and partnered with AMC Networks to distribute the channel to cable and satellite providers who can then stream it via their apps (initially they partnered with Discovery). UK is because of the license fee so BBC UK and BBC Worldwide are seperate entities. The other countries are for censorship reasons, they get the channel on TV, but it's on a minute delay so certain stories can be censored.

    The feed they get on TV in the rest of the world also has breaks when the North American feed has ads. (Depending on the country they either get ads or bumpers/continuity) You're not really missing anything, those stories that air during the break are filler stories that aired earlier in the day and are meant to only be seen on non-commercial stations that air BBC World News bulletins like PBS, ABC Australia and BBC UK. Each region also has different weather bulletins so weather for their region is shown in the morning and evenings.
     
  18. mwdxer

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    I have read that FilmOn, in the UK, the company that streams BBC News seems to have some legal rights. What they are, I have no clue. The BBC has taken them to court in the past, only to find the judge favors FilmOn. FilmOn cannot sell the streaming service or install any ads, but as long as it is free, there seems to be some loophole. Any BBC channels all have the FilmOn logo. It looks like they are the only one with rights. But International News channels are popping up all over. Most are streamed by their government. One of the latest English News channels is TRT (Turkey). We have Russia Today on Dish, but besides Russia Today, they also have their documentary channel. France 24 as well as DWTV Germany is also on the Roku. I will say one thing about streaming, it is all over the board. It reminds me of the early days of TVRO where everything was free. Except with streaming there are so many more choices. But I would rather have BBC World on Dish as I could DVR any program.
     
  19. mwdxer

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    By the way, there is a UK channel streams called Sky News, I guess a competitor to the BBC. They have a app on the Roku. It streams in 1080i and it is free. There are way too many International News channels on the Roku, that Dish will never get.
     
  20. jamelar

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    I switched from AT120 to Flex. I had added Encore to the AT120, and continue to add it to Flex, no problem.
    I also added the News Pack which includes BBC World News, a channel I've been wanting. As KyL416 points out, there are ads, although far fewer than the US based news channels.
     

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