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Fox / Newscorp channels possibly suspended Nov. 1/Now resolved

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Pepe Sylvia, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. Oct 22, 2011 #281 of 1258
    SPACEMAKER

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    So basically the customers lose and the stockholders win.

    USA! USA! USA!
     
  2. Oct 22, 2011 #282 of 1258
    je4755

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    I suspect you are correct.

    Forgive me if I’ve missed it, but has DirecTV offered any guidance on how, if at all, the loss of RSNs will affect CI? In any event, this 16-year subscriber will be extremely upset to lose the RSNs and FSC during the hockey/college football/EPL season.
     
  3. Oct 22, 2011 #283 of 1258
    Tom Robertson

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    Um... carry that out across all of DIRECTV's expenses over a long time period. DIRECTV can't let all the channels ask for 40% increases against 4% increase they can get from us.

    The "look at just one channel's raw dollar" game doesn't work in the long run. You have to look at the whole picture too.

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  4. Oct 22, 2011 #284 of 1258
    twiseguy

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    Don`t worry, DTV will make it up by giving all those subscribers a free PPV movie coupon. (valid on movies $3.99 or less)
    DTV quit caring about it`s longtime, or it`s top package customers long ago.
     
  5. Oct 22, 2011 #285 of 1258
    HoTat2

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    I personally won't really miss any of these (non RSN) Fox channels should there be an interruption as they're seldom viewed here.

    As for my RSNs, FSW and FSPT, with the NBA lock out the Lakers are a non-issue right now and USC college football being on probation leaves nothing to really play for. Don't care about the rest of the L.A. sports teams.
     
  6. Oct 22, 2011 #286 of 1258
    TonySCV

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    To be fair.. length of the prior contract has to be taken into account. A 40% increase from a 10 year old contract isn't unreasonable, for example. (I have no idea what the term is of the current contract with Fox.)
     
  7. Oct 22, 2011 #287 of 1258
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    So you don't think that News Corp has any culpability in any of this? To place sole blame on D* seems extremely short sighted.
     
  8. Oct 22, 2011 #288 of 1258
    Marlin Guy

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    Both sides are trying to leverage the customers against the other side.
    Ignore them, like the children they are.

    I can live without being able to record some of my favorite programs for a while.
    Plenty of access to bit torrents and Usenet.
     
  9. Oct 22, 2011 #289 of 1258
    Mariah2014

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    Blackout for the games that were for the teams you would have received on your missing RSN, but for those who wouldn't be blacked out would only get those feeds when the league provides them and then they would be SD and not HD. Which I think stinks due to the Letterboxing of those feeds now. I may stop ordering the package through Directv and just order the NHL Gamecenter Live. It includes the HD feeds and includes feeds that Directv is not including at all. Plus, the price is cheaper than the NHL Center Ice price. The MLB and NHL online packages are really superior to the TV counterparts anymore. If this is still going on come March, I won't keep MLB extra innings considering how many teams are on FOX stations.
     
  10. Oct 22, 2011 #290 of 1258
    TBoneit

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    I guess I'm not seeing how threads on Ala Carte have any bearing on how sports keep overall prices down rather than the opposite?

    It seems to me that if sports channels were moved into a optional sports package that my rates would either stabilize or go down. As it is I and other not interested in sports subscribers are subsidizing sports fans.

    I suspect that more subscribers have no interest in sports than have a interest in sports or that their interest in sports would be trumped by savings.
     
  11. Oct 22, 2011 #291 of 1258
    twiseguy

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    I wonder why Fox News Channel & Fox Buisness Channel isn`t in this?
    Seems to me that they (NewsCorp) would have this included, since they claim all this viewership, that would be the "high value" stuff.


    And besides that,
    After being informed by DTV that they will no longer be adding subchannels for my AM21, they add a subchannel Cleveland WEWS 5.2 Live Well, that only went live (the subchannel) 4 weeks ago.
    Other local subchannels, which have been broadcasting longer, have been ignored.

    And all the new HD coming (soon)

    Sadly, I have lost faith in DTV as a trustworthy corporation
    Sold my stock, etc. months ago
    Maybe they will earn back my trust, but I doubt it.
     
  12. Oct 22, 2011 #292 of 1258
    TBoneit

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    The Fox News Channel & Fox Business Channel contracts haven't expired yet. Thus they are not included in this contretemps.

    They are coming up shortly and will likely have the same problem IMO.
     
  13. Oct 22, 2011 #293 of 1258
    lparsons21

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    I think the Fox News contract is tied up with the Fox O&O local stations contracts.
     
  14. Oct 22, 2011 #294 of 1258
    twiseguy

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    I was just wondering where the Fox O&O fit in. NewsCorp could pull the rope tight if it took NY, LA, etc. out during football and World Series
     
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    How is the customer losing? Newscorp gets less than they wanted, DirecTV pays more than they wanted, the customer sees no change...

    The country has EXIT doors too, btw...
     
  16. Oct 22, 2011 #296 of 1258
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    Looks like you are correct, based on a an article in the Wall Street Journal [link]. Guess we might get to see if millions will leave DIRECTV, if they don't reach an agreement by 1/31/12.

     
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    Oh don't give me your jingoistic BS. I'll bitch about our plutocracy as much as I please. I have that right.:)
     
  18. Oct 22, 2011 #298 of 1258
    Paul Secic

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    I don't watch any FOX because they think they're top dog.
     
  19. Oct 22, 2011 #299 of 1258
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    In absolute terms, revenues will go up when you raise prices, but that doesn't mean D* makes more money. Far from it. If their costs are outpacing their price increases, they will not make more money. Their margins actually go down, and that is exactly what is happening. Less margins mean less profits, mean less R&D, mean less cool new stuff, satellites, etc.

    For many MSOs like DTV, their costs are going up more than 10% per year. I've seen some in the industry going up 15% per year. Yet, you aren't seeing your prices go up 10% to 15%, right?

    The simple reality that every MVPD is seeing is an increase of programming costs far outpacing the increase in prices to consumers. Or another way to put it, the MVPD is absorbing the costs are a much higher rate.

    I believe Mike White said pretty clearly he is ok with being charged more for Fox programming, the question is how much. Is 40% a fair increase? If customers bills went up 40% there would be an absolute backlash of monumental proportions.
     
  20. Oct 22, 2011 #300 of 1258
    ATLFAN48

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    In my opinion, this one gets resolved unlike the G4 thing a year ago. Too many channels involved reaching too many special interests. If there is an interruption which I highly doubt, it won't last long. Fox has too big a stake in NFL Sunday Ticket for this not to work out and for DTV ST is their baby and they could not replace it period.

    There is no bigger DTV fanboy than me, I am a former employee but I am getting concerned with whats happening everytime a renewal comes up. Its like pulling teeth and we are losing content. I do not like losing content and the worst part is the company line about how they are doing it on behalf of the subs. I cannot believe that there are posters here yhat actually believe that. Its all about DTV squeezing fox for every nickel they can. It has nothing to do with our bills, they will go up in January just like they always do.

    One of the things that brought me to DTV in 2001 was content. There were at least 10 channels that Comcrap didn't provide for us at that time. FX, Speed, SYFY, Boom, CN just to name a few. Its sad to see DTV taking this hard stance. I pay them an average of $220 a month and they think we will continue to accept loss of content... Shame on you DTV!

    Robbie
     

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