Fox Sports RSNs

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  1. slice1900

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    Fox's 4K broadcasts have been with games carried on FS1. They only sold the RSNs, they didn't sell FS1 so it won't affect their 4K broadcasts at all.
     
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    most NBA 4k games this year were from different FSNs not FS1 .

    Fox sports spurs
    Fox sports bucks
    Fox sports hawks

    I dont event think FS1 has NBA ...?

    There were a few Raptors 4k games from the Canada 4k broadcast but that's un related to my FSN 4k inquiry



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  3. KyL416

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    I have to check the specific dates, but like the Raptors, those were likely also distributed by NBA TV using FSN produced coverage.

    Fox Sports doesn't have any national NBA distribution rights, those rights are all with Turner Sports/NBA TV and ESPN.
     
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    I'll post some photos still have some games saved on my DVR

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  5. KyL416

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    The Spurs game that night was a NBA TV game, so like I said, it was NBA TV distributing those games in 4K using coverage produced by FSN.

    Fox Sports doesn't have any national NBA rights, so they can't distribute those games directly. Which is why we only got the games NBA TV picked for their telecasts in 4K.
     
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    Cool hopefully it will continue next year! Loving that 4K keeps growing recently

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  7. JoeTheDragon

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    I think the Raptors are Rogers / TSN 4K
     
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  8. SamC

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    And, apparently, the winner is Sinclair. This will be interesting, as Sinclair is very focused on small market TV. Things are different in the big city.

    If I have it right, it only owns stations affiliated with a major network in 2 MLB cities covered by this sale (Fox in Cincinnati, ABC in St. Louis). Baltimore, Washington, and Pittsburgh have different RSNs. It owns some CWs and other such in some other bigger markets.
     
  9. slice1900

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    Maybe they feel there is more than one way to play in "big market TV", since their ability to buy locals into those big markets will be limited by FCC rules. i.e. owning RSNs in those big markets instead of network affiliates.

    When MVPDs like Directv or Comcast negotiate with them, they'll have locals in a lot of smaller markets and RSNs in a lot of bigger markets, so they will have more leverage than they had before. Look for outages of locals and RSNs in the future, since Sinclair likes hardball tactics.
     
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  10. TheRatPatrol

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    If Sinclair does get them I wonder if they’ll change their names to Sinclair Sports Networks?
     
  11. SamC

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    I have read nothing on it, but I would assume the rights to use the word "Fox" are only for a short transition period. The most logical times to switch are just at the end of or just before the beginning of baseball season, so October or March.

    Marquee is the name of their (separate from this deal) Cubs channel, launching next spring. They could expand that.

    The still have the trademark to American Sports Network, which is now called Stadium, a "netlet" .2 channel showing, more or less, stuff nobody else wants.

    I saw somebody post that if you go back far enough the previous names of parts of this network included "Sports Channel" and "Prime Network", no idea about the rights or copyrights to either. Prime Sports Network - geography sounds pretty good.

    Of course our friends in the GWN have the totally original "The Sports Network" which everybody just calls "TSN" and "Sports Net" which most everybody calls "SN". So creativity is not the biggest thing.

    One thing. Please drop "Ohio" from the name of whatever Fox Sports Ohio becomes. It is shown in four states on the main feed and in three others with modified commercials. The stadium of one of the main teams is literally on the state like, AKA the Ohio River. Call it "Ohio Valley".
     
  12. KyL416

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    Cablevision/Rainbow kept the trademarks to SportsChannel, and Liberty kept the trademarks to Prime Sports, but they have both since expired.

    Through a bunch of sales/spinoffs, those channels are all with different owners:
    SportsChannel America -> National channel that eventually became Newsport and later American Sports Classics before folding entirely
    SportsChannel Chicago -> Folded shortly after FSN Chicago lost the rights to Comcast, but for a while it continued showing FSN national content and some regional college sports
    SportsChannel Cincinnati -> FS Ohio's Cincinnati subfeed (with the Reds now having partial ownership)
    SportsChannel Florida -> FS Florida (The last channel to drop the SportsChannel name because it was still a competitor to the Sunshine Network)
    SportsChannel Los Angeles -> Folded in 1992
    SportsChannel New England -> NBCS Boston
    SportsChannel New York -> MSG+ (now owned by an independent MSG Media)
    SportsChannel Ohio -> FS Ohio's main feed
    SportsChannel Pacific -> NBCS Bay Area
    SportsChannel Philadelphia -> Folded when they lost the rights to Comcast
    Prime Sports Arizona -> FS Arizona
    Prime Sports Intermountain West -> ATTSN Rocky Mountain's Utah subfeed
    Prime Sports KBL -> ATTSN Pittsburgh
    Prime Sports Midwest -> FS Midwest
    Prime Sports Northwest -> Root Sports Northwest
    Prime Sports Rocky Mountain -> ATTSN Rocky Mountain
    Prime Sports Southwest -> FS Southwest
    Prime Sports Upper Midwest -> Folded prior to the merger after the Midwest Sports Channel got the Timberwolves rights
    Prime Ticket -> FS West (The current FS Prime Ticket is the former FSN West 2)
    SportSouth -> FS South (The later incarnation of SportSouth is the former Turner South)
    Sunshine Network -> FS Sun
    La Cadena Deportiva -> Fox Deportes (originally a spanish version of Prime Ticket)

    These didn't originate as Sports Channel/Prime channels and were aquired after the creation of FSN:
    Midwest Sports Channel -> FS North
    PASS Sports -> FS Detroit
    Turner South -> FS Southeast
    Wisconsin Sports Network -> FS Wisconsin (post purchase it was integrated as a subregion of FSN North before spinning off into its own region again)

    These didn't launch until after the creation of FSN:
    FS Carolinas -> Created as a subregion of South
    FS Indiana -> Created as a subregion of Midwest after FSN aquired the rest of the Pacers rights
    FS Kansas City -> Created as a subregion of Midwest after the old Royals Sports Television Network folded
    FS New Orleans -> Created as a subregion of Southwest after Cox Sports lost the rights to the Hornets/Pelicans
    FS Oklahoma -> Created as a subregion of Southwest after the Supersonics became the Thunder, before spinning off into its own region
    FS Prime Ticket -> Created as an additional channel called FSN West 2 so they could air more simultaneous games by having one NHL, NBA and MLB team on each channel.
    FS San Diego -> Created as a subregion of West after Cox lost the rights to the Padres, before spinning off into its own region
    FS Tennessee -> Created as a subregion of South
    SportsTimeOhio -> Created as an independent Indians RSN before it was purchased by Fox in 2012.


    They'll probably just go with Marquee Sports Network to make the name of the future Cubs channel a semi-national RSN brand name.
     
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  13. James Long

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    The history of the state line is interesting. Cincinnati is one of the places where the line is where most people expect it to be (in the river). As far as the channel, do they carry any teams above high school that are not from Ohio?

    It is the simple answer. I like simple answers.
     
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    and that may push cubs Marquee network to 100% on directv and dish.

    Chicago land may have an $10-15/mo rsn fee next year.
     
  15. JoeTheDragon

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    SportsChannel America was National channel for markets with out an local SportsChannel. Some stuff did show up on the local overflow channels at times.

    Chicago was ONTV (UHF) --> ONTV / sportsvison (UHF + CABLE) --> then a few games on ONTV UHF after sportvison UHF ended + sportsvison for cable only at same time?) then sports vision cable --> SportsChannel Chicago

    SportsChannel Chicago also ran Hawkvision PPV

    The cubs went from WGN to CLTV for some games limited time before moving the CLTV games + other WGN games to sports channel / FSN. That used the CLTV slot for overflows (system without CLTV did get the overflow games)

    I have posted about this and a bit more in the past on this site.
     
  16. inkahauts

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    I’m not so sure Sinclair will win. I kind of expect Liberty to. For a multitude of reasons. Big 3 would be the most interesting winner, they have some big time sports people behind their group I believe.
     
  17. SamC

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    FS - Ohio is the most generic of all the Fox Sports - Wherevers. First is it run out of Cleveland, there is no content, other than the Reds or Blue Jackets, from anywhere else, Ohio or not. There is almost nothing on the channel in other local content at all. Some few college and HS games, all NE Ohio, and locally produced golf show. I think they have some Ohio State talk, or at least they used to. Mostly it is games and filler, nothing else.
     
  18. ejbvt

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    They do carry the Cavaliers who are from Cleveland. Don't forget MLS! lol Maybe the new owner will figure something out the get it HD on Directv full time. (Kyl doesn't need to explain why it isn't again! Unless he really wants to...)
     
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