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Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by b177b80, May 13, 2010.
Huzzah, good sir.
You and I are parsing the offer differently. As I read it, the 24 month extension is a given, then you have a choice of paperless/autopay OR the $99 one time fee.
x AND (y OR z) vs. (x AND ) or z
*Requires 24-month commitment and AutoPay with Paperless Billing OR $99 One-time HD Programming Upgrade.
I am seeing it as you get it for free, if you meet all, 3 factors. In this case a 2yr commitment, Autopay and Paperless billing. Or Pay a onetime fee, of $99, and get it that way with no commitment, Autopay or paperless billing. Allowing for users that don't like Autopay, and want a Paper trail bill, to be able to have the benefit as well, for a price.
I wont put in the math, as some already think its to complicated to look at how a business model is created, when factoring in a price increase, with a price cut, and the addition of a new package. on multiple levels. Granted it only takes 30 seconds to figure out, the math and business models are just to complicated.
To confirm, if I am existing HDPlatinum customer, I will be able to drop Platinum and see $10 drop in bill. But will I still be required to sign up for autopay/2 year commitment to do this or will the grandfather clause allow me to avoid these requirements?
So by getting something "free for life" my bill will go up $2. No more free stuff for me, please.
No autopay, no paperless billing, no commitment, no $99 HD upgrade fee. Existing HDPlatinum customers score "HD Free for Life" with no catches.
Cancel HD and see how much your bill goes up.
AT120 w or w/o HD ... $39.99 (SD same price)
AT120+ w or w/o HD ... $44.99 (SD same price)
AT200 w or w/o HD ... $54.99 (was $52.99 for SD)
AT250 w or w/o HD ... $64.99 (was $62.99 for SD)
AEP w or w/o HD ... $99.99 (SD same price)
EVERYONE in the AT200/AT250 world is getting a price increase. The people I feel for are those who are still paying $10 for the Bronze HD/Silver HD/Gold HD and either didn't bother or don't know about the "HD & Platinum HD" for $10 offer. It seems they (and new customers after June 3rd) are the "victims" here. They will have to pay the $99 or make the commitment to get the free.
If you want to pay SD pricing for HD viewing the time to act is now. Add the + Platinum HD if you have not already done so and drop it in June if you wish. Or do nothing not get the "Platinum" channels but still pay the $10 more. Your choice.
thats funny, yet sadly true.
Well you can drop the Platinum channels and save $8
So back to HD free for life. If I keep the Platinum package my bill goes up. If I drop platinum my bill actually will just be charged $ 2 instead of $ 10 for HD. This is do to the $ 2 mid year price increase for 200 or 250 packages.
I currently subscribe to America's Top 200 With Locals for $52.99
and SilverHD for $10.00.
So would the best option for me to save money be to cancel my SilverHD package and then resubscribe to the current HD package before June 3rd?
If I understand correctly, I can get the Platinum package free right now if I sign up for the new HD package. Then starting June 3rd, I could cancel the Platinum HD package and get $10 knocked off my bill. However, the price of the new America's Top 200 would increase to $54.99. So the end result would be me saving $8/month off my current bill???
Do I got this right? The only catch is I need to sign a 2 year contract extension to get the Free HD for life promotion (I already have credit card autopay and paperless billing). If I didn't sign up for the 2 year contract extension or pay the $99 HD upgrade fee, then my bill would actually go up $2 per month???
This is pretty confusing so thanks in advance to anyone that helps me out!
No, you will be charged $2 more for the base package. That extra $2 applies regardless of if you have HD. If you drop Platinum HD after June 3rd you will drop $10 off of your bill (not $2).
AT200 without HD ... $52.99 today, $54.99 June 3
AT200 with HD ... $62.99 today, $54.99 June 3
AT250 with HD & Platinum HD ... $62.99 today, $64.99 June 3
AT200 without HD ... $62.99 today, $64.99 June 3
AT250 with HD ... $62.99 today, $64.99 June 3
AT250 with HD & Platinum HD ... $72.99 today, $74.99 June 3
Yes. If you wait until after June 3 you will have to commit.
Correct. With no commitment or $99 fee if you change to "HD & Platinum HD" before June 3rd. You will likely be charged the $5 downgrade fee when you drop your SilverHD. But that is better than $99 or the autopay/paperless/commitment.
As long as you have "HD & Platinum HD" before June 3rd there will be no commitment or fees (and no requirement for autopay/paperless billing). Wait until after June 3rd and you will have to pay or commit.
Correct and thank you James for being clearer on the details than I apparently have been.
Thanks for the reply James! I just dropped the SilverHd package and added the HD & Platinum HD package.
I currently have AT250 and HD for an extra $10
If I understand this correctly.... I should drop the HD package ($5 fee) Then since adding Platinum is free right now, I should then add the HD + Platinum for $10... Then when June 3rd comes around, I will have HD for life with no extra commitment. Correct?
So essentially I will be getting the Platinum package for the same price I was paying just for the HD package before???
If I do nothing.... I will still be paying the same for just the HD package and would have to do one of the commitments in order to get the deal... Correct???
Reading all these post about getting HD for free for life I can’t tell if I coming or going. Maybe I am having one of those days that I like to call: “Having a brain fart”. So here is my question I have the AEP + Locals + HD & Platinum. My understanding is that I don’t have to do anything. If I what HD for life, I then would pay the $99.00 to have (get) no commitment and my bill would go down $10.00 per month?
Maybe we need a new posting on this HD for free for life and only have information needed to make a decision on this HD for life. I know this is an open forum but there is just too much contradiction in information being floated.
Here's what I understand.
It used to be HD for $10, Platinum for $10.
Then in August 2009, it became HD with Platinum for $10, but existing customers had to jump through hoops to get the price to drop from $20 to $10.
Apparently in June, it will become Platinum for $10 and no charge for HD and it appears if you have HD & Platinum all you might notice is an line description change on your bill without having to do anything.
I'll post here if after I see my June 1 statement which is usually available a day or two late when they make changes like this.
The "Free for Life" is a marketing thing, not meaningful. It just means HD is now defined as TV. Oh, and apparently some or all of the regular packages are going to cost $2 more.
Its my understanding that on June 3, 2010, that the 200 and 250 packages are going to go up $ 2. So if you have either of these packages and HD with Plastinum right now and do nothing. Then your bill for either of these packages will increase $ 2 per month. So no break for current customers with these packages and these add ons. But actually a higher bill starting June 3, 2010.
We have Autopay, paperless. Will I have AEP + Platiumum come June 4th?
I agree that this is a marketing thing, but I do not agree that it is not meaningful. If you are a person who does not have Platinum, you can get the free for life promotion and have a $8/month reduction in your bill. That is meaningful to me. (HD level $10 - increase in base package $2 = $8 less)
The best thing to do is check your bill. Look at how your HD is charged.
If it says Bronze HD, Silver HD or Gold HD as a $10 package ACT NOW.
If it says "HD & Platinum HD" there is no reason to do anything now.
If you have separate line items for Bronze/Silver/Gold and "Platinum HD" you should have done the drop add dance months ago (and saved yourself $10 a month since August).
(These statements apply to people with the $10 HD add ons, not the former "Turbo HD" or "Absolute" HD only packages.)