I am in my 11th year with D*, and I agree in principle with what you are saying. I may not have used the same words , but I do agree with a lot of what you say. Every time I see a thread that starts off with "what do you think I can get for free" it just drives me up a wall. Yes, everyone is entitled to try and get the best deal they can, but it is all the constant looking for things to call and whine about in order to get something for free that drives me nuts. How do people think D* pays for all the freebies in order to maintain the bottom line? I can pretty much assure you that all the freebies each year show up in the next pricing structure charged to all subs. D* is a business and they are not giving anything away that won't be recouped somewhere else.