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Free-to-air reception?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by ee1995, Feb 17, 2004.

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  1. ee1995

    ee1995 AllStar

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    I have a 510 and 811 with Dish500 in service with AT120. I also have my old 2000 (4000?) receiver and single sat dish and LNB. Anyone know if I can use the old receiver for free-to-air channels? Can I get any channels except the showroom channel on 119 or 110? I read somewhere that you could get NASA and the audio channels on a free-to-air receiver. Any other suggestions on how to put the old equipment to use?
     
  2. TonyM

    TonyM Banned User

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    its not a free-to-air receiver....its an unsubscribed receiver.

    Free to air is a totally different thing

    (rant off) :rant:

    I have 4 receivers collecting dust (3000, 4000, 2 301's) and you can get some stuff on there
    Remote Control Help 101 (also for Charlie Chats)
    Sports Preview 103 (450)
    Movie Preview 139 (500)
    NASA 213
    the "knock off" home shopping channels (215, 216, 218, 219, etc)..everything but QVC, HSN, ShopNBC
    Angel one (262)

    You dont get the music channels....those you can get with a Free To Air DVB receiver (something totally different)

    Some receivers will pop up a "Your smartcard isnt authorized to view this" on everything but 101, 103 & 139...My 3000 does it but the 4000 doesnt.
     
  3. Mike Richardson

    Mike Richardson Banned User

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    If I trick my 301 to work without a smartcard it will get all those channels plus Muzak.
     
  4. FTA Michael

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    What if you get a FTA Ku-band receiver? Would that work with the Dish 500 dish and LNBF?
     
  5. JohnH

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    carload, only if it uses separate LNBFs for 110 and 119. you would need to get a direct connect to the LNBF.
     
  6. Phil T

    Phil T Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    I used to have a 3000 receiver that I used to watch the Bell Expressview barker and news channels on Nimiq. Channel 199 was newscasts from all over Canada.

    I don't know if they still do this. It has been over a year I have tried it and I dont have a dish pointed at 92 any more.
     
  7. jgoggan

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    Well, not necessarily. You can use a generic DVB-S card in a PC connected to a standard DishPro and even SuperDish setup (through a DP-34 switch) and watch the FTA channels and free radio on 110/119 with a bit of transponder configuration/manipulation. The DP-34 appear to respond to standard DiSEqC switching -- and you can "lie" about the frequencies so that you can see the "bandstacked" transponders.

    - John...
     
  8. JohnH

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    Assuming your DVB-S card will supply enough current for a full blown DP-34 setup of course.
     
  9. TonyM

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    yep. 199 during the week shows newscasts from stations throughout Canada..some live, some tape delayed (by a 1/2 hr or hour)
    On weekends its usually 6pm-2am eastern. The rest of the time is previews for PPV.
     
  10. jgoggan

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    I don't think it should matter. My understanding is that the DP-34 is DiSEqC compliant. Therefore, pretty much any DVB-S card with DiSEqC control should work with it.

    - John...
     
  11. James Long

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    Mine apparently won't. I'm not sure why, but I tried everyhing I could.

    JL
     
  12. jack8219

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    i have an 811 on order to use with my 508. how do you have your 510 and 811 hooked up? i have only one cable coming down from the roof but do have an antenna cable unused that could possibly use if 2 cables are needed. i heard about diplexor for the OTA antenna that could use the same cable as 508 or 811 to "split" the OTA and satellite signal?? i don't want to use rabbit ears for HD OTA reception if it can be avoided. i haeard about a DP 44 switch which could "split the satellite signal??? if you could explain how you did the installation to use both together i would appreciate it. thanks jack
     
  13. jgoggan

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    What DVB-S card are you using? If it happens to be a SkyStar2, be sure that you are using the "enhanced" driver that is available with MyTheatre (and works fine with non-MyTheatre software also). It fixes significant DiSEqC problems that exist in all previous versions of the SkyStar2 driver.

    - John...
     
  14. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Using your credit card as the trick ? ;)
     
  15. ee1995

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    I have a Dish500 with DishPro LNBs, one cable running to each receiver. I used to have legacy LNBs and switches but the install changed the LNB when the 811 was installed (also got the 34" monitor). Prior to this, I always did my own installations but the monitor is too heavy. The OTA comes from a channel master antenna in the attic to a booster amp and through the 510 then distributed to four TVs throughout the house and to the 811. The channel 3 output from the 510 is quite strong and drives the remote TVs nicely. I do need to install a separate antenna feed to the 811 because now I lose the OTA digital channels when the 510 is on and feeding channel 3 to the system.

    If you use a rooftop OTA antenna, be sure that it is properly grounded and that you have a lightning arrestor where the cable enters the house. You must use good grade RG6 for teh sat feed. I don't wnat to risk my equipment by connecting it directly to anything on the roof (my dish in tucked under my back deck).
     
  16. Mike Richardson

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    Actually I can run it with *no* card at all, and it will barker/muzak/NASA/other FTA channels. I forget how to exactly, but it's some combination of powering it down multiple times and pulling the smartcard at a certain time.
     
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