From the 'Here We Go Again Dept.' Sinclair Could Be The Next Set of Locals to Disappear from DirecTV

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  1. Aug 11, 2019 #41 of 162
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    This is frigging hilarious.
    I live in the Syracuse, NY DMA and sub to DirecTV.
    As of this moment, my local ABC (Nextstar), Fox and CW (Northwest) affiliates are blacked out because of the fee disputes.
    The only network affiliates I can get are NBC and CBS.
    Want to guess who owns the NBC one?
    Yup, Sinclair. And they operate the CBS channel for Granite.
    So I'll be down to 1 national TV network station.
    I make my annual call to DirecTV soon for NFLST, this could be interesting.
     
  2. Aug 11, 2019 #42 of 162
    techguy88

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    Gotta love duopolies and these shared service agreements. I'm just hoping they reach an agreement with Sinclair like they did in 2013 (O&O) and 2016 (for the some of the sidecars like Cunningham). The big one I hope and pray AT&T never gets into a dispute with would be is Gray Television they control the NBC, MyNetworkTV/MeTV & CW stations in my area and I would never hear the end of it from my mom and grandma if they lost NBC and MeTV.

    Wait? Wikipedia says Sinclair owns your NBC and CW station, operates your CBS station while Northwest owns your Fox and MyNetworkTV stations and Nexstar has your ABC station. Is that correct? So if a Sinclair dispute happens wouldn't you lose both NBC and CW?
     
  3. Aug 11, 2019 #43 of 162
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    If they remove Sinclair channels and if they don't bring back nexstar and the other local channel off in my area, then I would have 4 LOCALS Off in my area...
     
  4. Aug 11, 2019 #44 of 162
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    I just got WCCO (CBS owned) back and now potentially losing WUCW (Sinclair owned).... then again.... this is Sinclair we are talking about here so I won't miss it really.
     
  5. Aug 11, 2019 #45 of 162
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    CW is already out, like Fox.
     
  6. Aug 23, 2019 #46 of 162
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  7. Aug 23, 2019 #47 of 162
    bjdotson

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    Local stations like Fox, CW, and the major networks are owned by different Companies. For instance, in my DMA CW is owned by Nexstar which is in dispute. Nexstar also owns the Local ABC station. So they are both out FOR ME. The local fox is owned by Tribune Broadcasting. When the Bonneville dispute was going on, I lost NBC. CBS for me is owned by Sinclair. Long story short; you cant really say "CW is already out, like Fox" I depends on who owns the local stations.
     
  8. Aug 23, 2019 #48 of 162
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    Thank goodness the Sinclair/Tribune deal didn’t go through. LA would be losing The CW like did when Tribune,itself,went through this with Directv a few years ago.
     
  9. Aug 24, 2019 #49 of 162
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    I thought I read somewhere that Directv had renewed its carriage agreements for Fox Sports networks shortly before the Sinclair deal? If that's the case, then this won't impact the Sinclair negotiations.

    Probably one of the big things that will regardless of whether the above is correct is the new Cubs channel. Sinclair is going to insist on a deal for that as part of renewing the local stations. That's the whole point of owning both sports networks and local stations - they can leverage them against each other to put greater pressure on MVPDs to agree to their terms.

    The mistake with the Dodgers Channel wasn't the price, it was that TWC had no leverage over other MVPDs like Directv to force them to come to an agreement Basically the same mistake the Pac 12 made with their channel. With Sinclair as owner the Cubs Channel won't experience the problems the Dodgers Channel and Pac 12 Network have had trying to get carriage, and I'll bet the in-market price is higher than the $5 the Dodgers Channel was trying to charge.
     
  10. Aug 24, 2019 #50 of 162
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    Interesting about the Fox Sports Networks. My take was worst case (for DIRECTV subs) that we would lose a lot more stations now should Sinclair pull the plug. Even the YES network perhaps. :eek: There's no LCC for this stuff.

    Best case scenario is now that those negotiations are over, they can concentrate on a deal with DIRECTV before any stations do get pulled.

    For sure, Sinclair is a powerhouse now if they weren't already.
     
  11. Aug 24, 2019 #51 of 162
    R0am3r

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    The Syracuse CW Network is NOT blacked out on Directv. Check channel 14 for proof. You can also see the CW Network via OTA channel 3.2 (if you are in range). The blacked out channels in the Syracuse DMA are:

    WNYS-43, MyNetworkTV
    WSYT-68, Fox

    *Removed WSYR-9 from the list as this dispute was resolved.
     
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  12. Aug 28, 2019 #52 of 162
    techguy88

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    I believe this is the deal you are looking for: https://www.multichannel.com/news/at-t-reaches-carriage-deal-with-fox-networks-group

    This deal includes assets that were kept by Fox Corporation (Fox/MyNet O&O stations, FS1, FS2, Big Ten Network, Fox Deportes), assets sold to Disney (FX, FXX, FXM, National Geographic, Nat Geo Wild, Nat Geo Mundo, Fox Life, BabyTV), the Fox Sports RSNs now owned by Sinclair and the YES Network owned by Yankee Global Enterprises, Sinclair Broadcast Group and The Blackstone Group.

    The only assets not covered under this deal owned by Fox Corporation are Fox News Channel and Fox Business which are covered under a separate contract.
     
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  13. Aug 31, 2019 #53 of 162
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    You're right. I do get 14. I mixed up 14 and 43. They're basically the same channel, lol.
     
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  16. Sep 20, 2019 #56 of 162
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    This would hit 3 channels for me in the Salt Lake DMA; one of them CBS (which is probably the channel we watch most)
     
  17. Sep 20, 2019 #57 of 162
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    As I said before, Sinclair operates the local CBS station (Granite owns it) and owns the local NBC station in Syracuse. No way the CBS affiliate is affected. Thank goodness you can watch NFL games using the NBC and Fox Sports apps. If CBS did go, no way I'm paying for CBS All-Access. Yahoo streams local NFL games so that would be the key for CBS games.
     
  18. Sep 20, 2019 #58 of 162
    kevinwmsn

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    In Mobile,AL/ Pensacola Market, We already lost half of our Sinclair Stations since Deerfield dispute that is still ongoing. Now we can lose ABC. We will be without ABC, NBC, MyNetworkTV, an independent channel. That LCC picks up all those channels great. This has been a year of disputes, what's ontap for October...
     
  19. Sep 20, 2019 #59 of 162
    techguy88

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    Just keep in mind when viewing that list the Sinclair O&Os are the ones being disputed. Status breakdown of the Sinclair sidecars:
    • Deerfield Media, New Age/MPS Media, Howard Stirk Holdings, and other smaller companies: Ongoing separate dispute, please see Retransmission Issue Enters 4th Month.
    • Cunningham Broadcasting: Last negotiated in 2016 and no blackout occurred apparently deal was reached with no fanfare.
    • Granite Broadcasting: No dispute
    • Manhan Media: No dispute
    • Horseshoe Curve Communications: (2 Complicated LMAs) - No dispute
     
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  20. Sep 21, 2019 #60 of 162
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    Getting alerts on the guide about the dispute in Fresno, CA channels 26 and 59 FOX, CW.
     

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