Game blackout on Sunday Ticket

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Fastphilly, Oct 18, 2015.

  1. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    To the people filing the lawsuit... So what. Tuff. If you don't want to pay the price then don't. To think they have the right to decide how the nfl wants its products sold is arrogant. I just completely disagree with all these arguments. Businesses should be allowed to decide what channels they want to sell their product through and have not discriminated against anyone in doing so either. Why don't they just sue Costco for not selling its Kirkland brand products at more places than just Costco while they are at it. It's the same thing. They are really just wining because it costs more than they want to spend, just like all tv prices, and they don't seem to get prices will only go up no matter how it gets sliced up in the long run.
     
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    You correctly paraphrased what I wrote... which necessitates that I reword (or more correctly elaborate on) what I wrote as it pertains to Sunday Ticket.

    First, part of the confusion regarding the broadcast of a competing game in the same timeslot, is due to DTV historically exercising a waiver clause that permitted satellite distributors to not be bound to comply with the 35 mile (Cable service area) restriction on competing games if (my recollection of the wording) "it poses a significant technical challenge or economic impact to implement". For years, the satellite folks used that as their rationale to not blackout competing games. The cable folks argued the point for years and eventually got a FCC ruling on the definition of "significant technical / economic.." being essentially that complying would put them out of business... a qualifier that the satellite folks could never prove, and since then, have accepted and been VERY diligent about strict adherence to the blackout rules. So longtime Sunday Ticket subscribers are confused... because the situation HAS changed and DTV has not been forthcoming explaining "the bad news" to subscribers.

    The second part, those that subscribe to Sunday Ticket, would then ask... "does this mean every competing game in the same time slot as the local would be blacked out?" This would not make sense... it would pretty much eliminate any reason to subscribe to the package. The league, who set up all these blackout rules... dating back to the '60's, explained that there was no difference with / without ST, the competing game scheduled to be broadcast on the other home affiliate network and the scheduled national broadcast outside the home market would be blacked out with or without ST, but that the blackout does not extend to any other games televised by ST.
    Further leading to the confusion, is that some subscribers received just the 1st quarter or the 4th quarter of the GB/SD contest.
    This happened because the broadcast was blacked out only during the time the SF game was in progress. Because of the oddball 1:25PM, rather than the standard 1:05PM start time, the blackout did not strictly coincide with the 1:05PM time slot, and the beginning and end of the games did not conflict and those portions were not subject to blackout... they showed you what they intended all along.

    Not sure why DTV doesn't just explain this on their website... and not let their customer service reps invent or repeat misinformation. I surmise that if ST subscribers understood that this is not an anomaly and this is the way it's going to be, they might not renew their subscription. But don't take my word for it... I know a lot of you won't... just do a search on "FCC Document - Notice of Proposed Regulations - Sports Blackout Rules..." or similar and you can read up on it for yourself...

    Edit: the blackout rules dating back to the '60's was not meant to refer to ST... mainly just the 72 hour ticket sellout rule... when the league's biggest concern was loss of revenue from unsold seats... not even a consideration today when the revenue is primarily generated from TV contracts... not even taking into account ST...
     
  3. Fastphilly

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    So are you saying that when a 49er game is being aired on the local network affiliate, other games in the same time slot will not be available on the Sunday Ticket? For reference, the Sea/Car game was on the Sunday Ticket. I've been a sub for over 10 years and this has never happened before.
     
  4. dcowboy7

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    If the local team is home then the other network cant show a game against them.

    If you have ST however you can see games against the local home team on the ST channels.
     
  5. inkahauts

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    But I do not think you can watch the away teams feed of your own teams game, can you?
     
  6. twaller

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    In the NFL Regular season there are no "away" feeds, all games are national. With ST you should be able to see all regular season games, either on ST or your local affiliate (with the exception of this Sunday's online only game). If the game is not showing on your local CBS or FOX, and is blacked out on ST, it is a mistake. There is no longer a "local blackout rule" for non-sold out games.
     
  7. joshjr

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    Not to mention that article made sure it listed the highest Sunday Ticket Price available to the public. Wasnt it only like $249 for Sunday Ticket by itself? I mean if your gonna complain, then get the pricing right. No one who orders Sunday Ticket is forced to take the Max version.
     
  8. AngryManMLS

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    Meanwhile we got the Bills/Jags debacle happening this Sunday where it's not available on Sunday Ticket at all. "Every Game Every Sunday" still being said on DirecTV's ads today as well.
     
  9. peds48

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    Doesn't Yahoo have exclusive rights?
     
  10. AngryManMLS

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    Yes but I still find the "every game every Sunday" line completely false given that this game is NOT available on DirecTV at all.
     
  11. trh

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    Are you also complaining about the the Sunday night games?
     
  12. zimm7778

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    Why would anyone complain about the Sunday night game? It's on NBC which means it's on TV.

    I am a Jaguars fan living in Tampa. I have a Roku box so I can stream this game over the TV. I hope I have no issues watching this game tomorrow. But I also know I'm at the mercy of my isp and the bandwidth/server/whatever issues on Yahoo's end. This has never been done before so they don't know what to expect. I hope everything goes off without a hitch.

    Yes, I realize people have had a field day making fun of the fact this is online and how they are happy they don't have to see two sucky teams play, blah blah blah. But both teams do have fans outside their market who pay for NFL ST to see their teams every week. If everything goes ok, won't be an issue. I'm hoping for the best on that.
     
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  13. AngryManMLS

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    While I'm hoping the stream will be fine as well I'm expecting there will be issues. This is a bad idea to limit the game TV wise to strictly Buffalo and Jacksonville while secondary markets such as Rochester, NY aren't even getting the game on TV at all. Not to mention displaced Bills and Jaguar fans who lack high speed internet to be able to watch the game. Incredible short sighted thinking by the NFL on this one.
     
  14. trh

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    I think this is a test to check the viability of streaming the games.

    Good thing this isn't an afternoon game. Commercial accounts would be screaming bloody murder since I don't know too many that are setup to distribute an Internet feed to their TVs.
     
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  15. dcowboy7

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    But this doesnt apply to that as mentioned in the fine print.

    Just like you dont get the local teams on sunday on ST or the SNF game on ST.
     
  16. James Long

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    2015 NFL SUNDAY TICKET OFFER: Package consists of all out-of-market NFL games (based on customer’s service address) broadcast on FOX and CBS. Games available via remote viewing based on device location. Local broadcasts are subject to blackout rules. Other conditions apply.

    The Yahoo game is not broadcast on the FOX or CBS network. The involved team's local stations will carry the game but this is not a FOX or CBS network broadcast. Conditions have always applied to the NFL Sunday Ticket offers ... and such conditions have been disclosed in the disclaimers.
     
  17. zimm7778

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    Jacksonville, not Tampa.
     
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  18. AngryManMLS

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    Whoops yeah I goofed on that post. Fixed. :(

    Technically this is a CBS broadcast as CBS is handling the game itself. And I will repeat what DirecTV says in their own ads... "Every Game Every Sunday." So yes DirecTV is false advertising due to this game NOT being available on Sunday Ticket.
     
  19. AngryManMLS

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    Boy is DirecTV getting toasted on Facebook for not having this game.
     
  20. zimm7778

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    My live stream has died 4 times. This streaming plan sucks!
     

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