Genie 2 and remote client in detached garage

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  1. chdoud

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    I have a HR44 and HR21. The 44 is in my house and the 21 is in my detached garage and workshop about 100 yards from my house, so I have a second dish on the garage.

    I understand the 17 uses WIFI to connect to the clients. Correct???? In my case WIFI will not reach into my 40x 60 metal garage.

    Any idea how ATT will handle this situation? I would just as soon keep the HR21.
     
  2. WestDC

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    HS17 Can Handel wired Clients - If you Change out to HS-17 -your HR21 Goes away even if a client won't work in your other building - Wired it should be okay
     
  3. HoTat2

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    Sorry to say that with a some 100 yard distance between your house and garrage, AT&T/DIRECTV can't really do anything much beyond your current setup.

    If you upgrade the HR44 to an HS17 (aka the "Genie 2"), then you'll receive at least one client for inside the house and your HR21 must either be deactivated or you must open a second account for it to keep it on.

    As DIRECTV only allows clients on the same account with a Genie 2. And they can't and won't try to run an underground cable 100 yards from the G2 server in the house to a client in the garrage.

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  4. HoTat2

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    Or can/will AT&T/DIRECTV actually run an underground cable 100 yards from the G2 in the home to a client in the garrage?

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  5. chdoud

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    Thanks That is what I thought....
     
  6. RAD

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    You could always get an external Wireless Video Bridge which will work with your HR44 and a wireless client. You could place the WVB in your home as close as you can to the garage to help with the reception.
     
  7. HoTat2

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    The OP said his garrage/workshop is about 100 yards (or 300 ft.) from the house. Plus is made of all metal exterior construction which blocks RF.

    So WiFi is not an option even if the WVB were in a reasonable range ...

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  8. jimmie57

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    If you are trying to go to 4k, insist on an HR54 and replace the HR21 if needed with an HR24.
    Or, just replace the HR21 with an HR24 and wait on changing to 4k.
     
  9. P Smith

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    I would run 100m coax cables and Cat 5-6 cables in a tube/pipe/conduit without hesitation by myself !
     
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  10. RAD

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    Thanks, missed the 100 yards, but I didn’t see anything about metal construction.
     
  11. James Long

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    There you go (line two of the original post).
     
  12. satinstallerguy

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    If you get rid of that H-21 and add a mini you can do it with 2 non managed network switches and a couple of Ubiquiti radios.... Plus you can get internet in your garage
     
  13. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    I would use rather fiberoptic cable and two Ethernet boxes
     
  14. slice1900

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    Another alternative is to run ordinary RG6/RG11 and use gigabit over coax adapters on each end, which costs about $100 including the coax - much cheaper and more durable than running fiber. I'm sure it is also cheaper than the Ubiquiti solution, given the price of their products, but ordinary wifi would work fine for only 100 yards if you angle the antennas correctly, assuming you have no neighbors.
     
  15. P Smith

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    well, then RG-6 would be sufficient too for 100m distance
     
  16. slice1900

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    Not necessarily, using DECA you have to account for splitters. If you use dedicated devices there are no splitters and you can use the network for other stuff not just Directv clients. There are also non MoCA standard products with ranges far longer.

    DECA/MoCA outputs at 0 dbm, and needs to be at least -45 dbm at the receiver. You lose about 30 db with 100 yards of RG6, and another 10 db or so with a four way splitter (one to LNB, one to HS17, one to client inside house, one to client in garage) which already puts you dangerously close and doesn't account for the lengths of coax inside the garage, inside the house to the splitter, and from the splitter to the HS17. It would "probably" work, perhaps running a bit slower which wouldn't matter, but you'd want to use RG11 if you wanted to be really sure it would be rock solid - especially if you can't or don't want to run coax on a beeline to the garage, or if that "100 yards" turns out to be more like 120.
     

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