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Genie and mini genie questions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Cavicchi, Jul 20, 2013.

  1. Cavicchi

    Cavicchi Legend

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    You obviously never had the Cisco 8652HDC DVR.
     
  2. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    And, as to post 111?

    Why??
     
  3. Cavicchi

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    No, not trolling. There was a great package deal with Verizon that got me interested in DTV again--along with the silent mini genies. I figured if the HR44 made annoying noise, I could put the mini in my den. I asked questions as any prospective DTV customer would do.

    If you give me the chance to save a good chunk of money, I will consider it. DTV had offered me lots of discounts to come back, but not enough. Verizon had a sweet package with phone and DTV that I liked, so I gave it a whirl. All went through with Verizon until a day or two later when they informed me DTV axed the deal because I had service within the last 2 years.

    I have to tell you that my wife and daughter did not want DTV service again. The reason is loss of signal. When I had DTV in the past, we would occasionally lose signal with snow, thunderstorms, and sometimes with rain. I don't watch much TV, so the loss of signal isn't as big a deal as it is for wife and daughter. When I inquired about DTV on Internet and told my wife and daughter if they missed their favorite show, loss of signal, they could get it via Internet: problem solved.

    With cable we have 99.9% reliability. With DTV it was more like 89% reliability. Still, with the right price, I would consider going back to DTV because I don't watch much TV. I could go back now and save a few bucks, but not enough to me switch. After one year the difference is minor. With Verizon the difference after one year is better because I would still save on the phone service.

    Now I must say that doing a web search on HR44 noisy and 8652 HDC noisy produced one result, HR44 noisy: I have the HR44-700 Genie which is a great and fast DVR, but I notice it makes noise which I think is coming from inside the receiver, which I can hear clearly like a fan running, Is this normal?, either way it's making too much noise like a vibrating sound, But I could also try raising the DVR and put something underneath it so it stop making that annoying noise.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/topic/205700-hr44-making-noise-normal/
     
  4. adamson

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    cable does not compare or should not be compared to Directv. Just think if there was a disaster of some sort and the cable lines were down, you will not have tv for god knows how long.

    My last hometown in Wisconsin had a tornado just 3 miles from my home, I had no power for days, others had no cable tv for over a week. I watched directv with the power of my generator. So this fact blows any% of cable reliability.
     
  5. Mike Bertelson

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    My HR44 is pretty quiet. I never hear it but then again it's next to an HR21-100 which is pretty loud.

    IIRC, the HR44 fan only comes on when it reaches a setpont temperature so as long as it's in the open it shouldn't come on too often...if it's in a cabinet you won't hear it any way.

    Did you read the second post in that thread you linked?

    Mike
     
  6. adamson

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    One more thing, your pc or laptop makes more noise than the HR44. Really...yes you are trolling.
     
  7. Cavicchi

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    Since we built this house 18 years ago, and in all the years we had cable, the only time we lost service for a day or more was when there was no electricity (blackout), which would also knock out DTV. All power lines, including cable TV, are run underground to my house.
     
  8. Cavicchi

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    Yes, I read the second post, but that still leaves the first post ;-)
     
  9. Cavicchi

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    I have 3 SSDs in my computer that has one fan running at under 800 rpm. Is it silent? No, but extremely quiet, so quiet that for the most part as close silent as you can get.

    In addition, I do not watch TV on my computer. You apparently like to use that word, trolling. Go ahead, use it and I don't care, because responding to you is just a waste of my time.
     
  10. Joe166

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    I guess I have had different experiences than some here. I live in South Florida, where storms are, while not frequent, at least not unusual. I have basic cable as a backup for DTV. I have a whole house standby generator and I live on the water, but on a high (for South Florida) bluff, so I don't get flooded out. Since I have a phone line and comcast internet, basic cable is peanuts extra, but I can see my dish flying to Cuba long before my cable goes out. They used to be very spotty, but they have been very dependable the last 3 or 4 years.

    I just hope that DTV does not get out of the OTA business since that has been my lifeline. The stations antennae are almost directly north of my home about 20 or 30 miles and so if there is a storm system blocking the satellites (southerly direction), I can almost always get the OTA signal on my AM-21 and keep watching, even if it isn't everything. Seldom does the weather obstruct the antenna feed. My main concern is that the dish will depart the area due to high winds.
     
  11. loganbay

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    You should not connect the genie directly to the internet. you need to connect the whole home "cloud". If you get a 44 this can be done via built in wireless connection. the 34 would require either a cck wired or a wireless cck. either way it comes with the install.
     
  12. peds48

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    I guess I have had different experiences than some here. I live in South Florida, where storms are, while not frequent, at least not unusual. I have basic cable as a backup for DTV. I have a whole house standby generator and I live on the water, but on a high (for South Florida) bluff, so I don't get flooded out. Since I have a phone line and comcast internet, basic cable is peanuts extra, but I can see my dish flying to Cuba long before my cable goes out. They used to be very spotty, but they have been very dependable the last 3 or 4 years.

    I just hope that DTV does not get out of the OTA business since that has been my lifeline. The stations antennae are almost directly north of my home about 20 or 30 miles and so if there is a storm system blocking the satellites (southerly direction), I can almost always get the OTA signal on my AM-21 and keep watching, even if it isn't everything. Seldom does the weather obstruct the antenna feed. My main concern is that the dish will depart the area due to high winds.


    with a properly mounted dish, it would not anywhere UNLESS your roof goes with the dish. as far as cable goes, many folks when Irene hit the east coast were able to watch DirecTV if they had a generator. those with cable had to wait much longer even if they did not loose or power was restored because cable companies have many powered devices on the streets and if those areas do not have power you are hosed
     
  13. Mike Bertelson

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    I figured the fact that the Thread Starter said the noise is gone was relevant.

    If you’re going to use that thread as a source to say the HR44 is noisy then doesn’t the second post negate the first post…or is there something else going?

    Mike
     
  14. Cavicchi

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    Not sure what you mean there. Why is it not advisable to connect Genie directly to Internet?
     
  15. Cavicchi

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    In case you haven't noticed, the main discussion for quite some time was about the HR44 being a silent DVR. I had asked about the HR44 in this thread and someone replied to me saying it is silent. I disputed that and still do, referring to HR44 as a silent DVR. I would love to see DTV come out and declare their amazing Genie HR44 is the first or just silent DVR.
     
  16. Mike Bertelson

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    Fair enough.

    You seemed to have been making the argument that the HR44 was a noisy DVR. While it’s not silent is it pretty quiet. I doubt you’d hear anything unless the room is quiet.

    Further, there is no such thing as a silent DVR. Hard drives are not silent and fans are not silent…even your 8652 isn’t silent.

    The fact is there is not a completely silent DVR. If you want silent you’ll need a Genie mini or a receiver like the H25. Both are silent and can be hidden from view.

    Mike
     
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  17. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    If whole home is enabled, slapping a working ethernet cable to either Genie will provide that link to the internet (cloud if you will); it contains the necessary for DECA and CCK.

    Connecting a Genie to the internet is the preferred way to go for many. Dunno where you got the idea it was "wrong"- do you recall the source of that?
     
  18. Cavicchi

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    I can agree with most of what you said. My 8652 HDC is most likely quieter than the HR44. I can sit within 3 feet of my DVR and hear nothing in a room where quiet is really QUIET.

    There is no fan in my Cisco 8652 HDC DVR. The operating temperature is stated to be up to 105 degrees Fahrenheit. Because I often game on my PS3 and sometimes xbox 360, my den gets warm, around 80 degrees. No need for me to worry because switching to TV does not activate a fan in my DVR because there is no fan, and I do not hear hdd from within 3 feet.

    I don't hide my DVR--it sits on the shelf below my PS3.

    All this is not to say I would not switch to DTV, which I explained in another post today. However, I would say, and this is true, we are better off with cable TV. Give me that Verizon package deal and I will consider DTV, otherwise, I don't have any interest in DTV--no matter how many discounts they offer me. I know after that first year expires, the savings is pretty much lost.

    I can feel for those that went out to purchase an HR44. They want the latest DVR DTV has to offer. With my cable company, I can tell them what I want when I join and they will bring it. None of this if it's on the truck routine. Heck, if you want to please a new customer, you can make sure that unit is on the truck.

    I don't pay for a protection plan. I get free service when i need it. Want to upgrade my DVR? No Problem, and I don't need to go and buy it from an outside source only to return it if leaving DTV.
     
  19. damondlt

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    Yep far from silent. They sound like HR 20's with that constant hard drive noises.
    But you'll never get this guy to admit that, cause he is currently on a cable power trip for what ever reason I'm not sure. The Hr's are light years a head of them Cisco boxes.
    Passport Echo is the lamest user interface on the planet.
     
  20. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    Equipment fees are through the roof, so you should get free repairs and upgrades.

    So are the local taxes that applies to cable but not satellite.
     

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