Ok, I've been much more active here researching my imminent switch from Time Warner. I love the channel line up as it has more HD than both Dish and DirecTV, but the DVR is killing me. It's constantly glitching, missing recordings, and just plain awful.Time Warner has got to go. I've compared Dish and DirecTV extensivily and most things are leading me toward DirecTV at this point even though Dish has a few more channels in HD that I want at this time (Sportmans, G4, Cooking to name the top three). The big stumbling block is their receiver integration. I require 5-6 outlets and the Hopper just doesn't have enough available tuners. I looked at a two Hopper system, but it's basically like having two individual systems like I have with Time Warner. Each unit can view each others recordings, but not see the schedule or manage it and it requires re-link Joeys and such. So, I'm trying to find as much information as I can on how the Genie interacts with other recievers. I'm not talking about the C-31 clients here. I understand how they work and it's like having a Genie at each set with OTA and all. The have the same functionality. The issue with those is once again available live tuners. Since they limited the Genie to five, I could never have enough live tuners to support the system. Seems like a fail in the fact that the SWM supports 8 tuners. They should have allowed the Genie to support 8 tuners as well. However, I'm not against paying extra for an HD receiver or additional DVR for an outlet if it integrates well. Can anyone confirm how an H25 behaves as a Genie client? That would allow for a live tuner always available at the set no matter what. Big question is will I be able to schedule recordings, see the schedule (to avoid duplicates), and view off the recorded list? How would VOD work? I assume I'd need a separate connection to the H25? I require OTA, I assume I would also need a separate AM21N at the H25 as well? How would an HR-24 operate in the same setup? One 5 tuner DVR is enough to make sure everyone gets what they want recorded (each person would baically get a tuner), but in some instances it would leave no live tuners. If Dish had true Hopper integration, I'd probably go with that, but I need to verify how Genie operates before I pull the trigger and lock down for two years. I thank anyone who can confirm operations for me and give insight. I know the overall installation will be easier than Dish because of the SWM and the home having RG-6 to all outlets already.