I'm wondering if anyone can comment on this situation. I want to drop Comcast and go with a DBS provider (so far, undecided). But I also want to get my local channels. But of course, there is a catch. I live in DMA 154, but, due to hill shadowing, I cannot get any of the stations (7,9,28) from that DMA (I can't even see a sync bar). I live about 5 miles from DMA 22 and can get most of those stations OTA (2,4,11,13,22,53). The picture is snowy with a small antenna, and would require a large antenna to make decent (but I don't want to have a large antenna, and it would exceed the size OTARD protects, anyway). I've only tested this with analog since I don't have a DTV receiver. Comcast carries the affiliates from both DMA 154 and DMA 22 in this area. But only the DMA 22 affiliates are on the DBS local-in-local services. I've called both DirecTV and Dish Network to inquire about getting my local channels. Almost everyone I talk to there seems to confuse the issue with wanting distant network stations. Of course the real complication is that neither of them carry the stations from the DMA I actually live in. If Comcast can bring DMA 22 into DMA 154, why not the DBS providers? Based on some faked zip codes I qualified it seems I should be well within the DMA 22 spot beam ... unless the spot is shaped funny or something. Some funny things I've gotten from people there is that they are saying I would need to get waivers from ... and they give me a list of stations including some of the DMA 22 stations. Why would I need to get a waiver from a station that I actually want to receive, but that they won't provide even though I think they could? I think it's yet another case of confused customer support people. Most of the finger pointing blame seems to be aimed at the networks themselves. But this situation would otherwise leave me receiving absolutely no network affiliates (I do not want the New York or LA stations). I'd think they would like for more people to receive the network programming. But just because I can't get my own DMA 154 at all, they wouldn't want to let me have DMA 22 as an alternative, at least until maybe DMA 154 might get on the satellite some day? Since Comcast can deliver me DMA 154 and DMA 22 combined, is it the networks saying "because you can't get DMA 154, we don't want you to get DMA 22"? Obviously things got worked out in some way for Comcast to do that. But is it because they can deliver DMA 154 with DMA 22 that allows that? During one of the phone calls to one of the DBS providers, I was talking to a supervisor. He said something I think was interesting because I never actually asked about it. He said "We do have a big service theft problem, including a lot of people that give us the wrong address to try to get local stations in a different area, but we have no control over that". Was he possibly trying to give me a subtle suggestion? Anyone know just how wide these local-in-local spot beams really are?