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Going back to HR10-250

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by drewba, Nov 6, 2008.

  1. wilbur_the_goose

    wilbur_the_goose Hall Of Fame

    Aug 16, 2006
    drew - doesn't your wife get annoyed at the 60 seconds it takes to record a show or the long times it takes to sort your season passes.

    Sure, I miss DLB and even suggestions, but the HR20 is seriously good now.
  2. kirkus

    kirkus AllStar

    Mar 20, 2006

    Amen. I just reactivated our old HR10-250 to put in my daughter's room and was unpleasantly reminded how amazingly S L O W the unit is. There are a couple of features I miss, but I could never go back.
  3. drewba

    drewba Cool Member

    Sep 18, 2007
    Maybe its rose colored glasses, but she hasn't expressed any concern about the speed at all. I think that she's a creature of habit and we've had one TiVo or another for 7 or 8 years. For her, it isn't anything technical; she couldn't care less about dual live buffers. TiVo is just familiar and comfortable.

    I reactivated the TiVo yesterday, but left the HR21 activated so we can watch the shows on there. We'll see if she still wants the TiVo in a couple of weeks, but I'm pretty sure that she will.
  4. wilbur_the_goose

    wilbur_the_goose Hall Of Fame

    Aug 16, 2006
    Wow - you know that you'll lose ALL HD from DirecTV, right?
  5. bidger

    bidger Hall Of Fame

    Nov 19, 2005
    ^Well, around February anyway, as I understand it.
  6. drewba

    drewba Cool Member

    Sep 18, 2007
    Yep, we know. I don't watch much TV other than sports on the weekends and a couple of network comedies, so it won't be a huge loss for me. ESPN HD will stick around to the end of the football season and we get all the networks OTA. Hopefully the new TiVo situation will be clearer by the fall of 09.
  7. Tybee Bill

    Tybee Bill Legend

    Oct 21, 2008
    Had a similar problem with my wife. She hated the HR20 primarily because it was not recording some of her shows. Had a diplexer problem that got fixed with the help of this forum and now she loves it.

    Don't show this to your wife but if your HR10 got busted beyond repair, you would be moving up to the real world. A HD TV is garbage without some HD programming.

    Good luck.
  8. drewba

    drewba Cool Member

    Sep 18, 2007
    But we do still have HD programming, we still get ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, FOX and some other local stations via antenna.

    Besides, if I was going to play the "broken" card, I would have already played it. :)
  9. sectime

    sectime New Member

    Oct 21, 2007
    Do an A B picture comparison. I think you might change your mind. I hooked up my H10-250 to see what was recorded. It was like watching TV 5 years ago. Menus, UI were much worse than my memory of them.
  10. bertman64

    bertman64 AllStar

    Aug 24, 2007
    You can even put both units on the same TV so as not to lose any HD but still have the TIVO and double recording space. Then when the new TIVO HD DVR comes out see about upgrading.
  11. luckydob

    luckydob Godfather

    Oct 1, 2006
    really? :rolleyes:

    The constant lockups and unstoppable forced re-boots....
    The grey/black recordings...
    The missed recordings because "the program was not available"...

    It's seriously something...just not good. It HAS improved, but the lack of stability and inability to fix said issues is very troubling.

    I'll take slow and stable over fast and unstable any day of the week. This is just my opinion.

    The HR20 is getting there, but after years it should already be there.
  12. jnelaine

    jnelaine Legend

    Jun 8, 2008
    I've only had my HR22s for one day now, but I'm not very impressed. Obviously if you watch a lot of TV (and a lot of channels) having all the extra HD is great. But for someone (like me) who mostly watches ESPN or the major networks, I'm not seeing any benefit to the HR2x units. I *SERIOUSLY* missed Tivo's DLBs today while watching the NFL Sunday ticket. It was so easy to watch two games at once with the HR10. Pause - down arrow - watch second game - pause - down arrrow, repeat. There's just no work around on the HR2x units that will ever make it that easy.

    Oh, and the speed issue? I'm just not seeing any great speed advantage to the HR22. I'm sure that re-ordering your season passes must be a snap, but seriously, how often do you do that? Changing channels on the HR22 was agony. It was much faster on my HR10. And things like the 30 second skip or the skip-back key were much snappier on the HR10. These are the things you use all the time. I'm much more worried about them than about how long it takes to record a show.
  13. jhillestad

    jhillestad Godfather

    Jan 13, 2007
    I kept my hr10 for all my ota needs. I hate the hr20/hr21 interface. The Hr21 will not allow you to search down only sideways.... I like the tivo and search by time and favorites and work my way through the night selecting record as I go... the dtv pvr's are a pian but at least they are cheaper...
  14. ejjames

    ejjames Icon

    Oct 2, 2006
    My wife feels the exact same way. I have one tivo in the livingroom, and 1 in the theater. she knows all about my HR20's, she has zero interest in using it. fine with me. We live in peace.
  15. Chuck W

    Chuck W Icon

    Mar 26, 2002
    On the flipside, I fired up my old HR10-250, a couple weeks ago to grab some old recording off of it. I decided to hook up the cables to it, cause I wanted to test a couple things too. While there are some points that are slow(I do remember how slow it was to start recordings, at times), I would kill for the same almost instant channel banners, when changing channels, of the HR10, on my HR20/HR21's(and don't get me started on DLB either).

    One of my biggest pet peeves, with the HR20/21's are the ineptly slow channel banners that are either slow to become visible or are slow to change the banner info, from the prior channel/program. The HR20/21 has some great features, but it's basic funtionality leaves a LOT to be desired.

    Anyway, when I had my last Directivo Series 1 failed a couple weeks ago, I almost reactivated my HR10, at that time too, but remembered the channels that I wouldn't get with it, so I broke down and reluctantly got an HR21.

    I know what you are going thru with the change over. I will say, I cannot wait for the new Tivo units to hit next year.
  16. wilbur_the_goose

    wilbur_the_goose Hall Of Fame

    Aug 16, 2006
    lucky - I've had zero issues and have found the HR20's to be fantastic. I've not experience any of the issues you mention. And we record a LOT of programming.

    And I was a big time TiVo-phile. I was on www.tivocommunity.com ever since my first Philips TiVo. Shoot - I was a beta tester for the 2nd satellite input! I love TiVo, but its DirecTV implementaiton just isn't that good. 2009 may show promise with the new TiVo box, though.
  17. Richierich

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    I have 2 HR10-250s and 2 HR21-700s and a HR20-700 and I really love the GUIDE FEATURE of the HR10-250 where I can view what is on Channel 2, 5, 11, 46, etc. at the same time looking for Golf and then toggle to the right to increase the time frame.
  18. Spoonie

    Spoonie AllStar

    Nov 14, 2006
    Lucky you. I'd never go back to the HR10-250. My HR10-250 sucked big-time. I'm either going to Ebay the thing or smash it with a sledge hammer.

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