I would first like to say that I am greatly torn to be leaving Dish Network and if it was not for my current inability to receive OTA HD I think I'd be with Dish for a very very long time. I have tried many DVR's and none have impressed me since leaving Tivo a couple years ago, but the ViP 622 changed all that and showed me that life goes on after Tivo. But I am sad to say that I recently moved to an area where I can no longer receive any OTA signals and I can't justify my subscription cost to Dish HD without HD locals. So I called up my local cable provider (Comcast) and asked them what they could offer me to get me to switch from Dish Network and their offer was too good to refuse. So I ordered a Tivo HD and will be sending my Dish equipment back immediately. I will still try to keep up to date on DBSTalk as I am interested in the future of Dish Network. Especially considering their recent loss in regards to the Tivo Lawsuit. Hopefully they can improve their HD networks in time to keep their customer base strong. I am not locked into a contract with Comcast but my discount with them will end in 18months, so hopefully Dish has their act together by then.