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Good things I've noticed on the H/HR24s

Discussion in 'DIRECTV - H24/HR24 Field Trial (private)' started by houskamp, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. bobnielsen

    bobnielsen Éminence grise

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    The picture from the HR24 (connected via HDMI) is noticeably brighter than that from my HR20 (connected via component).
     
  2. Canis Lupus

    Canis Lupus You make it, We break it

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    Yeah there's definitely a "richness" or increase in saturation I've noticed since the beginning.
     
  3. RAD

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    For the image comments being made are we going down the same path that the HR23 folks did saying the image was better/different but once they adjusted their TV's there was no difference from the prior HR's?
     
  4. Canis Lupus

    Canis Lupus You make it, We break it

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    I never followed those comments, but for me I would not say it's "better" or "improved", although obviously the video processing is, at the least, different.

    What I noticed immediately and have continued to notice is that the GUI text is definitely more torn (as SD obviously) against the HD video. That's what made me notice the change in the HD picture more than anything else.
     
  5. RAD

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  6. Grentz

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    I think the differences I am noticing are because my component run from my HR22 is very long, and thus not absolutely perfect quality (a bit softer and not as bright of colors, though still very good). Just was curious what you were all observing ;)
     
  7. Canis Lupus

    Canis Lupus You make it, We break it

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    That's a pretty good representation of what I notice, although my observations are with any menu text, guide/info text (SD GUI) as opposed to a logo on an SD channel. Still, that's a pretty good representation.
     
  8. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    I unplugged my HR21 from HDMI1 on my Samsung LCD and plugged the HR24 in its place and booted up. I and my wife both noticed the difference in color saturation and sharpness of the GUI text, especially.
     
  9. smiddy

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    Side by side, not, within the same television yes, the HR24-500 has a different color, seems brighter, via component than my HR21-200.
     
  10. jasonki32

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    I have noticed that the GUI is much brighter(HR24) than my other IRDs. Speed and remote response is a huge improvement over the HR21s. It will be interesting to see what D* has in mind for these units. I think that these units can do a lot more than the code they are using now IMHO.
     
  11. Groundhog45

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    I've been thinking about what may be in store for the HR24s. I think that after you guys in group 2 and 3 get finished with your testing, you will get the magic keyword search to activate the other two tuners and to allow two MRV streams. I'm speculating tuners 3 and 4 are under that shield we saw in Tom's picture. Just a WAG. :lol:
     
  12. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    :nono: Doubtful! That was more likely the integration of the DECA hardware, think about it, it is about the same size as the modules we wll have. Plus, they'd have two more coax connectors.
     
  13. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    I think you're probably right - they look like RF shields.

    Not necessarily. Access to additional tuners might be a "SWiM Only" kind of feature. However, there doesn't look like there's room for more tuners, unless they're integrated with the two existing ones. And that said, if anything Super Sekrit exists about these boxes, it's probably the ability to serve up two streams at once rather than just one, and possibly the ability to do a high-res scalable GUI.
     
  14. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

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    Yeah, I knew some smarty would go there.
    I think RAD nailed it, these boxes may simply integrate the DECA into the fold. I think there is a speed improvement, but I wouldn't go as far as to say there are GUI enhancements, until they've been shown and implemented.

    I beleive that the builds we're seeing are not all inclusive of the current builds that are on the legacy boxes, since several features are absent. There is one that is new on these however is that the sound effects are on the digital streams (both HDMI and Optical/Coax). I don't have that on my HR20-700 or HR21-200 but both the H24-100 and HR24-500 have the bongs in those streams. I don't know what that implies precisely, but too, IR seems a bit speedier too (or haywire in your case). that usually indicates a hardware change and subsequent driver(s) to me. But alas DirecTV doesn't share such information with us and we've been told to not remove the covers on these boxes so we can not snoop. :(

    It is however fun to work with these new guys though! :D
     
  15. LameLefty

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    Well, let's be clear: I said the ability to do a high-res, scalable GUI, not that there has been any change. I mean, the boxes are clearly SUBSTANTIALLY faster than existing HR2x boxes. That strongly implies that there is a new chip inside managing things. It's quite possible that said chip is able, either through dedicated on-silicon assets or simply due to being faster and having more cycles to work with, to handle a newer, fancier GUI than the SD rasterized version we've always had.
     
  16. hdtvfan0001

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    It would make sense that these internal newer chips support future-planned GUI changes. Good point.
     
  17. Grentz

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    The interesting thing will be how they will approach a new GUI if only the HR24+ units will run it well.

    Seems like these should have been the HR3x class if that is the case to have some more differentiation.
     
  18. smiddy

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    Backwards compatibility is always an engineer's nightmare.

    I agree Herb, one would think so, and I'm hopeful that the newest Broadcom chip(set) is in there. I'd like to see it though (the displayed goods, not necessarily the chip[set]). I do live afterall in the Show Me state. :D

    :nono: I never thought I'd say that and I have, man, what am I turing into?! :eek:
     
  19. Groundhog45

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    Eventually, we all seem to turn into our parents. :eek2:
     
  20. hdtvfan0001

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    If there will be such a thing for a while...

    My own personal theory - what would prevent the new HR24-500 or a "sister" unit, perhaps from another manufacturer (like an HR24-200 or HR24-100) from actually ending up being the new Tivobox? IF they were using that very hardware right now at Tivo, and simply installing their own firmware on it...you would end up with "twin" units...but different DVR software on them.

    All it would take if for a different firmware packages to be installed.

    But that's all just speculation....

    In the mean time....the new units (H24 and HR24) seem to have enough horsepower, DECA built in, and other internal things we don't even know about....so that this series could be around for some time to come.
     

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