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Goodbye DirecTV - epilogue

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by jordanzimmerman, Aug 25, 2007.

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  1. uncrules

    uncrules Godfather

    Dec 20, 2005
  2. donshan

    donshan Godfather

    Jun 18, 2007
    I think it is great that those in the large DMA markets have a decent cable system. That competition keeps D* and E* pushing hard too. We wouldn't have D10 & D11 HD if it was not for the competitive desire by the sat companies to win customers away from cable.

    My Charter cable keeps calling me trying to get me to sign up for phone service, but HDTV is never mentioned in their promos. During the last Charter marketing call on adding phone service, I changed the subject to HDTV, since I have the mistaken idea that Cable TV was supposed to provide TV service. I asked the Charter rep about expanding their HD tier (10 channels including the extra cost HD movies) and if they were ever going to add our FOX-HD local Broadcast station to their cable HD lineup, and their rep replied: " What is HDTV? Is it any better?". Since my Charter cable does not yet even offer a HD DVR, it is no contest for me to stay with D*.

    Good luck and keep both cable and sat companies worried about keeping their existing customers.
  3. Wildcat

    Wildcat Legend

    Oct 3, 2006
    Glad you're happy with your choice. With what I have through DirecTv, there is no cable company available to me that could match them.

    DirecTv is starting to get far too many "cable-like" qualities for my liking...there is a reason I will do all I can not to use cable companies...and DirecTv is starting to mimic some of those traits.
  4. convem24

    convem24 Icon

    Mar 11, 2007
    I had a friend who stayed who go the new TivoHD. He prepaid 3 years service also. After I told him SDV would not work and he would be at the mercy of Comcast to get additional content (I think they will use SDV for the foreseeable future because of limiting capitol costs) he was not a happy camper but the problem is he cannot transfer his prepaid 3 years of service to someone else (that is why I am never for prepaid). I think once customers who got TIVOHD receivers realize that their availaiblity to additional HD content will be hampered by the fact that SDV is only supported by cable receivers the whole "amount of content" argument will go out the window.

    D* uses the HR20 which is now a worthy replacement for the HR10, I still run into people who think otherwise but I got used to the programming interface of the HR20 and with the new HD channels coming out it was a new brainer to get the HR20. I would really have to say good riddance to subscribers who are like that. Don't let the door hit you on the butt.
  5. wismile

    wismile Legend

    Jul 19, 2006
    I switched from Comcast to DirecTV and back to Comcast (for local HD)...oh yeah...then DirecTV started offering most of my local channels in HD, so I went back. I agree DirecTV alienated many TIVO lovers (me included). Anyone that compares any DirecTIVO to the R15 or HR20 isn't considering all the great TIVO features DirecTV hasn't passed along. All that being said I have come to like the HR20 and the more TIVO like features they add the more I like it. It still isn't as stable as my TIVO is, but they're getting there. Add dual buffers and the rest of the long promised features and I may even love the HR20.

    The bottom line is people all have their opinion and TIVO has far too many followers for DirecTV to continue ignoring them. Why not give us the choice and charge a premium to those customers that prefer the TIVO features and interface?
  6. wismile

    wismile Legend

    Jul 19, 2006
    I'm curious...how long have you owned an R15?
  7. jordanzimmerman

    jordanzimmerman Cool Member

    Jan 19, 2006
    I'm not too concerned about SDV. I was talking to the Comcast Tech and he's not too concerned abou bandwidth. He said they have plenty of bandwidth and pretty soon they'll be getting rid of standard-def and that will free up tons of bandwidth. In any event, I reserve the right to go back to DirecTV in the future ;)
  8. Ken_F

    Ken_F Godfather/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

    Jan 13, 2003
    That depends on your system.

    As I noted in the second post, Comcast customers on newer 860MHz and 1GHz systems don't really have to worry about SDV. Some of those systems have capacity for 100+ new HD channels today without SDV. It is customers on older 750MHz systems with 70+ analog channels that have to worry. Those systems may have capacity for 10-20 new HD channels, but beyond that, they'll need to drop more analogs or use SDV.

    Unfortunately, I am not aware of any published specification list for Comcast systems. It's doubtful that a customer service rep could tell you whether the system in your market is 750MHz, 860MHz, or 1Ghz. If you have a QAM tuner, it is pretty easy to tell. The 750MHz systems tend to max out at channel 110-115 while the 860MHz systems have 135. Every unused channel slot provides capacity for two HD channels @ 19.4Mbps, three HD channels @ 13Mbps, or about four HD channels @ DirecTV's MPEG-2 quality level.

    The NCTA announced this week that they will help develop a USB adapter to allow CableCard boxes like the TivoHD to support SDV, but realistically, such a device is probably at least 12-18 months off.
  9. MLock

    MLock Legend

    Aug 2, 2007
    Comcast, in my area, has pretty nice service, good picture, etc., but it is the company itself I cannot, and will no longer, deal with. They are absolutely evil to customers and incompetent as technicians.

    When they wanted to buy the Walt Disney company, it felt to me like Satan was trying to buy heaven.
  10. Paul Secic

    Paul Secic Hall Of Fame

    Dec 16, 2003
    Enjoy your huge rate hikes!
  11. Ken S

    Ken S RIP

    Feb 12, 2007
    Amen...actually choosing the pipe can be important because some give you better ways to sift through the drek to find the occasional nugget of silver worth watching.
  12. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
    I've always been facinated at the "need" for posters to have to tell some kind of elongated "goodbye story" when they switch. What bizarre therapeutic need is there do do a brain dump on their experience out the door? :rolleyes:

    For every one of these, I can easily find you 10 stories of people dumping cable because of their expereinces with defective or inferior equipment issues, poor customer service, high prices, blah blah blah.

    Whoopee. :D

    This guy has to write his life history on his way out the door?

    Many happy trails.

    [Don't be surprised if in a year or so, he's back to D*TV - that happens all the time.]

    I'm sure we'll welcome him back with open arms. :)
  13. Ed Campbell

    Ed Campbell Hall Of Fame

    Feb 17, 2006
    I gave away my HR10-250 - and the lad I gave it to is giving it one of his cousins further down the line now that D* has [most of] the locals in mpg4. He couldn't receive anything OTA at his home.

    I'll be getting a 2nd HR20 when I get my 2nd HDTV - no problem - next 6 months.

    Once a year I stop by the local Comcast office - I get my broadband from them. HD PQ sucks. Their offerings suck. Customer svce [on the TV side] is worse than sucks.

    Just sitting here waiting for D10 to light up.
  14. jordanzimmerman

    jordanzimmerman Cool Member

    Jan 19, 2006
  15. Ken984

    Ken984 Active Member

    Dec 31, 2005
    I wouldn't hold my breath on that coming to market, another "new" gadget to make cable work right. 2 way cable cards have been "in development" for a LONG time now and still they are not available. The idea that it should all just work together is a joke. How many horror stories have been written about getting the one way cards to work? None of the providers are perfect for everybody, find the perfect one for you and enjoy it.
  16. Steve Mehs

    Steve Mehs Hall Of Fame

    Mar 21, 2002
    Please explain. I have Time Warner out of Rochester, and it beats DirecTV in every way, shape and form. Picture quality is better (I've done A/B comparisons), more movie channels, customer services, reliability is flat out EXCELLENT, prices are about the same if you are a higher end subscriber, not that pricing matters, I don't mind paying more for cable because they are the superior provider for me and I don't mind paying more for quality. My HD DVRs have been just as reliable as my old DirecTiVos, never once did I have any problem that DirecTVs new inhouse DVRs have. My 8300HDs have been as solid as a rock, and if something happens it's a 30 ride to the Batavia office for an exchange. And it looks like most of the Rochester area agrees with me, according to a figure I read from the D&C online TW holds 68% of the marketshare in the area for TV, they are the #1 broadband provider and by next year, TW will be Rochester's largest phone provider with more subscribers then Frontier in the region. TW does it right in Rochester, and this is also the test market for new features and services.

    Horrible programming, let’s see going from DirecTV to TW I lose WGN, TV G, Gol TV, NFL Network, TV One, PBS Kids Sprout (have it on demand though), Nick West, HBO Family West and countless religious and shopping channels I don’t care about. But gain about 15 movie channels, tons of content On Demand, and HD channels DirecTV is supposed to have at some point that I've been enjoying for quite sometime now.
  17. kikkenit2

    kikkenit2 Icon

    Oct 25, 2006
    It's amazing how much the quality of Time Warner varies from city to city. My signal is terrible and my friend's 30 miles away is fine. My neighborhood is lot older and I think the wires are corroded. They only had 3 HD channels I don't get on D*. MHD, MOJO, and local ch 9 (Lakers/Dodgers). I'll have everything except mojo in 3 weeks and way more. I had the TW 8000 & 8300 dvr's when they were brand new. They froze up constantly. I had the HR20 when it was brand new. It wasn't much better. They all work fine now and I much prefer any dvr that has a 30 second slip or skip ahead (D* and E*). Cable sometimes has the advantage of offering HD locals and RSN that sat lacks.
  18. Redlinetire

    Redlinetire Icon

    Jul 24, 2007
  19. bidger

    bidger Hall Of Fame

    Nov 19, 2005
    I owned a standalone S2 networked TiVo and if the features you'd find on that are what you refer to, quite frankly I wasn't that impressed. MRV isn't that something I use and certainly not something I'd commit to 3 years to get the $6.95/mo. + tax rate I'd have to pay for an additional TiVo. I found more things I could do with a MCE 2005 that interested me than the standalone TiVo.

    I'm not saying those features stink, there just wasn't anything I found I couldn't live without and months later, I've found that to be correct.
  20. Steve Mehs

    Steve Mehs Hall Of Fame

    Mar 21, 2002
    Nice of you to selective quote. How about quote my full text. I'm not talking about TV service or anything specific here, but maybe if more people in this country focused on quality not price, we'd all be better off. I pay more for better quality and service, and I have no problem with it, yes I'm an idiot. :rolleyes:

    I also pay more for cable broadband then DSL would cost me. Damn Time Warner for offering 15Mb broadband. I'm such an idiot for not getting Verizon's 768K for $20.
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