Great article comparing all the streaming options for cord cutters and folks thinking about it

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  1. Aug 11, 2019 #21 of 263
    AngryManMLS

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    I've literally watched "Star Trek Discovery" for free just by waiting it out until each season is completed then binge watching. CBS has constantly handed out free month trials to me like it's candy so I've paid absolutely nothing to watch "Star Trek Discovery." Just need to learn how to play the CBS All Access game.
     
  2. Aug 11, 2019 #22 of 263
    scottchez

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    I tried all the cord cutting streaming providers. All of them. Some even twice.
    In the end they all had channels were you just could not skip comercials as it forced you on to the ON demand version.
    THIS IS WHY THEY ARE ALL CHEAPER.
    The networks make money when you watch comercials.
    I switched to Directv as a new customer and only pay $8 more a month that a streaming package with the same channels (top 180 channel package).
    Now I can skip commercials and actually have time to watch more shows.

    As a Bonus, even with my Fiber connection I never ever get buffering, they all seem to this issue maybe 4 times a month during prime time.
     
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  3. Aug 11, 2019 #23 of 263
    SledgeHammer

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    Ok, so you are comparing apples to a pick up truck. Your functionality couldn't be more different.

    7 boxes down to 2 simultaneous? If you dropped 5 boxes off, your DirecTV bill would drop -$40. You don't have the protection plan, so another -$8. You don't have WHDVR anymore either. Another -$3. So really, its $200 - $51 = $149 vs $70. Doesn't sound like you took advantage of the loyalty program either which could have easily knocked off another $40 or more. So then you end up with $109 vs. $70. And of top of all that, you don't have HBO anymore either! So now its $94 vs. $70.

    So like I said in the other thread, you lost 2/3 of your functionality. When you compare apples to actual other apples, you're only saving $24/mo and that is assuming you *only* got $40 off from retention. You likely could have gotten closer to $60 AND free HBO. If you go with the most optimistic assumption, your DirecTV bill would have been LESS then your streaming bill and you would have actually RETAINED all your functionality and all your TVs.

    Oh and btw, you also lost 5.1 sound on a lot of your channels.

    Apples to apples my friend :D.
     
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  4. Aug 11, 2019 #24 of 263
    SledgeHammer

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    The average lifespan of a satellite is like 15 yrs. Some on the forums expect DirecTV to shut down its sat service in the 2030's assuming they don't get bought by someone who launces new satellites. Once they reach EOL, they are de-orbited and burn up in the atmosphere.
     
  5. Aug 11, 2019 #25 of 263
    mjwagner

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    PSVue includes up to 5 simultaneous streams. We have 7 TVs in our house. All but 2 of them are occasional use TVs. We don’t often use them but when we do we just want to turn them on and use them.

    Honestly it’s all about exactly what channels you watch/need and how you consume entertainment. For us we didn’t drop D until we realized we rarely turned it on anymore. In our case we lost zero and streaming was simply a better fit to the way we were already consuming entertainment. For some people, maybe even lots of people (although based on the number of people that are dropping traditional cable/sat services it seems to be more like the former), that won’t be the case. For them traditional linear tv and the traditional cable/sat providers will continue to be the better option. For us it no longer was. We switched not to save money but to get an experience that more closely matched what we wanted. As an added bonus we saved a little over $70 per month. We were with D longer than most, before it was even called DirecTV when you had to buy all your equipment from the local “HiFi” store and install it all yourself.
    If D still satisfies your requirements and you are happy with your choice, great, it’s all good, different strokes for different folks and all that. What I find odd is why people insist on trying to tell others how they obviously must be loosing something, or they are ill informed, or making the wrong decision. Perhaps, just maybe, they are making exactly the right decision for them, which is different than the right decision for someone else.
     
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  6. Aug 11, 2019 #26 of 263
    mjwagner

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    How long a sat could stay in orbit is not the same as it’s useful life. When it ceases to be useful it is purposely pushed out of geo sync and burns up in the atmosphere.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2019 #27 of 263
    SledgeHammer

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    Yeah, PSVue has 5 streams, but isn't it all 2.0 stereo? Doesn't have basic channels like History and Discovery? Although surprisingly they have DIY, Science and HGTV? Also missing a few locals and no support for OTA. Same price as what I'm paying for DirecTV though for a LOT LESS channels.
     
  8. Aug 11, 2019 #28 of 263
    SledgeHammer

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    He is losing a lot and making an invalid comparison. It's like saying you saved a bunch of money by switching to Geico when you also downsized your Ferrari to a Honda Civic :D. Truth be told, Geico is actually one of the more expensive insurance companies out there for what you get. Yes, we're talking about TV, but still a valid analogy :D. As the streaming services are typically less bang for the buck vs. traditional. Less bucks and less "stuff" isn't saving money (at least not to me). You can do the same on D by going to a lower package and cutting out the same frills.
     
  9. Aug 11, 2019 #29 of 263
    mjwagner

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    Sounds like D is a good choice for you then. You seem strangely unable to grasp that what you need/want might not exactly be what someone else might need/want. The # of channels is entirely irrelevant for many people. The only thing that is relevant is whether a service has all the channels that someone wants/needs. But if you like a service to have LOTS of channels that’s fine. Not everyone thinks the same way.
     
  10. Aug 11, 2019 #30 of 263
    mjwagner

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    Again, they are only “loosing” something if it is something that they use/want/need. I don’t know about you but I try not to pay for stuff that I don’t use/want/need...but that’s just me.
     
  11. Aug 12, 2019 #31 of 263
    slice1900

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    No, they don't de-orbit satellites in geosynchronous orbit. They are required to reserve a little fuel for one last burn after they retire to raise them a few hundreds miles into a "parking orbit", where they just sit.
     
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    mjwagner

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    Interesting. Thanks for that tidbit. I thought they were treated the same as the LEO sats which, AFAIK, burn up in the atmosphere when they reach the end of their useful life.
     
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    SledgeHammer

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    D1R has been de-orbited.
     
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    Weird math and strange assumptions. Your right don’t need all that stuff now but needed it with Directv. You made my point exactly. Fanboys can be very close-minded.
     
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    bjdotson

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    Which is why there is approximately 5000 artificial satellites in orbit.
     
  20. Aug 12, 2019 #40 of 263
    Kuclas

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    I disagree with the OP. Directv satellite has a 10 second lag from live over the air sports. So what if you tube tv has a 45-60 second lag. U aren’t watching directv or even cable “live”

    Philo ($20) plus YouTube tv ($50). Basically replaces equivalent of directv xtra and spectrum silver package. Streaming boxes are so cheap these days. The $50 initial investment pays in months for itself vs renting from cable or directv for years.

    The things directv satellite needs to get its act together is in home streaming app for tv

    Both xfinity and spectrum off in home apps to bypass extra receiver. It’s a pure money grub to keep charging $7 a month for each box.

    So $70 plus taxes replaces directv xtra package. 3 streams at one time. Unless u got a family of 6-7. It’s highly unlikely to use all 3 streams at one time. But a family of 6-7 who watches a lot of tv would need at least 4 directv receivers to be paid for each month as well thus adding to the cost.
     
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