Great article comparing all the streaming options for cord cutters and folks thinking about it

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  1. Aug 12, 2019 #41 of 263
    Rich

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    NF has a bunch of A&E series and Hulu has some too.

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  2. Aug 12, 2019 #42 of 263
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    I recently left D* after 22 years and was one of the 200.00+ to ~70.00 month group.

    We did so mainly due to the elimination of AT&T's policy of no longer allowing temporary address changes but other things like losing not 1 but 3 locals due to various disputes, AT&T won't replace my malfunctioning LCC then turned around and raised my pricing 20.00/month while refusing to credit me for local outages or anything else, this was the last straw. Besides, I am just tired of playing that game with them. There are other things that we have put up with for years that we now no longer have to do as well but suffice it to say, we just aren't going to pay for a service where we aren't getting what we are paying for, subsidizing things (like 4K) that we have no interest in, and having to constantly play pricing games just to get the privilege to watch what we want, how we want and when we want.

    We subscribed to Premier and had 6 receivers (2 for use in our RV). With no discounts or credits and the recent price increase, our bill was over 240.00/month.

    Given that we already had a robust home AC mesh wireless/gig wired home network with Comcast Blast @ 150/10 (real speeds are higher and very reliable), great OTA coverage where we get over 40 OTA stations from three DMA's via our rooftop antenna array (helps alot with blackouts of certain events), Netflix, Amazon Prime and Vudu accounts as well as HBO included with our Comcast internet package, an OTA/streaming solution might have been easier for us to move to than others. But in reality, I have been preparing for this type of transition for quite a few years now, even before AT&T came along. AT&T, with their new policies and actions just pushed the time frame up a few years.

    So after listing out the channels we "needed", we purchased 6 FireTV 4K sticks on sale for half off (150.00 total) and a FireTV Recast 4 tuner/1TB OTA DVR, also on sale for 100.00 off (179.00) to record our locals with. We then subscribed to both PS Vue "Core" and Philo to get all the "cable" channels we wanted (and then some) with minimal overlap for about 75.00/mo. Neither of us care about 4K, NFL ST (we watch college sports), etc. so with D*, I am sure at least some of our higher costs were also supporting those types of things as well as other channels/programs that we would never use.

    The result is that for watching a few more commercials on a small amount of cloud DVR programming (most we can still skip) and of course, on demand programming, (can still skip on OTA recorded content as well as most cloud DVR stuff).....

    1. No more commitments or ETF's to worry about.
    2. Wife can see the UI better than D*'s.
    3. Saving approx. 150.00/month
    4. Can stream OTA DVR recorded content and LIVE local channels from home to anywhere via the FireTV app.
    5. Own our own equipment again.
    6. Replacement/upgraded equipment easily available same day from everywhere.
    7. Can move our setup, including ALL local programming easily between home and our seasonal site for free.
    8. Better HD picture quality (wife even noticed which she NEVER does)
    9. Commercial skip all OTA DVR content and most cloud DVR content (not on demand)
    10. Easily modify/change programming at will to fit our needs with a much larger selection of packages via many providers
    11. No overseas call center headaches
    12. No more receiver, HD, DVR, Whole Home or regional sports network "fees".
    13. No wires or "boxes" at each TV. DVR is hidden in the basement near the antenna feed entry point and sticks are out of sight behind the TV's
    14. Voice command remote
    15. No rain/snow fade
    16. All 40+ locals and sub channels on all TV's instead of just what D* wanted to let us see with no extra antenna wiring to each location needed.

    Oh, and as a thank you to my wife for her continued efforts to adjust, the first months savings allowed me to send her to the spa for the day! I just hope she doesn't expect that EVERY month! LOL

    I will admit OTA/streaming may not be for everyone and requires you have the home infrastructure as well as being willing to adjust to a few new realities to get a desirable result. D* always was and continues to be a "premium" service with "premium" programming and if you want a "plug and play" solution, D* is probably still your best choice, especially if professional sports are a big part of your viewing. But for us and it seems, millions of others, OTA/Streaming is just a much better fit than what AT&T has turned D* into and cutting our monthly TV bill by 2/3 is a huge bonus.
     
  3. Aug 12, 2019 #43 of 263
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    I am paying ~$105 for 1 HXX (no DVR) + Preferred XTRA. I cannot get more than $10/mo discount (which brings me down to that $105). Have been a customer since 2002. Not everyone can get 50% off.
     
  4. Aug 12, 2019 #44 of 263
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    Welcome to DBSTalk! :cool:
     
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  5. Aug 12, 2019 #45 of 263
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    Weird math? Where? Can you still watch 7 simultaneous TVs? Nope. You didn't need the protection plan with DirecTV either. They usually replace boxes for free (at least they have for me). Do you still have 5.1 sound on all channels including locals? Nope. Do you still have WHDVR functionality? Nope. Do you still have HBO? Nope. Were you on the loyalty program? Doesn't sound like it.

    I'm not a fan boy, I'd leave if there was something better... I was just pointing out that your so-called savings are all in your head since you don't have a lot of the stuff you did before. If you don't need it now, you could have made the same changes on DirecTV and dropped your bill to the same place you are now AND still have more channels including HBO plus 5.1 sound.
     
  6. Aug 12, 2019 #46 of 263
    Rich

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    Well said!

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  7. Aug 12, 2019 #47 of 263
    Rich

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    Some of these folks just don't want to understand.

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  8. Aug 12, 2019 #48 of 263
    SledgeHammer

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    I have been a customer exactly the same length of time as you. Nov 2002. I have the HR54 + Preferred XTRA just like you. I think sticker on my setup is like $115 - $120 or so. I did have a HR24, but got the upgrade comp'ed minus $20 s&h. I have been getting promos from DirecTV for as long as I can remember. I don't have any relationship to anybody that works there or to the company in any way. I just call up and say "Hey, Dish and/or Cox is offering me this to jump ship, can you match it?" and every single time they say yes. The only time I had any trouble whatsoever was when my promo fell off in Feb 2019, then I had to play CSR roulette 5 times before I got the promo back lol. When another big promo fell off several months ago, I called in again expecting they would say no and I would cancel to go to Cox, but they were back to their friendly ways after a few bad quarters thanks to the cord cutters :D.
     
  9. Aug 12, 2019 #49 of 263
    SledgeHammer

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    Yes, we understand Rich. If you are going to say you are saving money, you need to compare equivalent or somewhat equivalent things. He could have made all those changes to his DirecTV setup too and saved a ton of money.

    If your DirecTV bill was the same as your streaming bill, which would you pick?
     
  10. Aug 12, 2019 #50 of 263
    SledgeHammer

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    You have some valid points, but also the same invalid points as the other poster did. You now have the equivalent of the "Preferred Xtra" package minus a bunch of channels (yes, some of them garbage). If you would have dropped your package down to Preferred Xtra you could have saved quite a bit of money and gotten rid of the RSN. You also don't need boxes at each TV with DirecTV, there are other options. And one other point is that you can watch from your DVR anywhere as well. DirecTV put in a restriction recently that you have to be on the same network, but there is a workaround for that. And then of course you could have joined the loyalty program.
     
  11. Aug 12, 2019 #51 of 263
    Rich

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    Our D* bill is a lot less than our streaming bill. I don't intend to pick one or the other. Not sure how many times I have to say this until it sinks in. What do you mean by "we understand"? Who's "we"?
     
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    Just got off the phone with them. I called to cancel my ST renewal. Before I called my bill was $145.42 per month without ST. After they gave me a Loyalty Discount, my new bill will be $76.48. (Still no ST, but that's okay with us.)

    We have Choice and the Regional Sports Package.

    @SledgeHammer - Thank you for putting this idea into my head!
     
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  13. Aug 12, 2019 #53 of 263
    SledgeHammer

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    50% off. NICE :D.
     
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    Athlon646464

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    Yup! Was considering jumping ship to YTTV, but I'm standing pat for at least another year.

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  15. Aug 12, 2019 #55 of 263
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    I played those CSR games for a few years to get discounts. Got old real fast calling every 6 months. Started feeling like the panhandlers I drive by each day on the interstate. Not my cup of tea.
     
  16. Aug 12, 2019 #56 of 263
    SledgeHammer

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    Not any different from negotiating your salary, or with a contractor doing work on your house, or when you buy a car, etc. But I'll agree with you that a lot of people are too lazy and/or feel like they are begging and would rather quit lol. Most of the promos I get are good for 12 months.
     
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    Well, it took me about 10 minutes total to save by my calculations about $82.73 per minute. And I'm good for another year, not 6 months. And I didn't have to put on a raggedy shirt or put dirt on my face.

    I'm going to call what I just did negotiating, not panhandling.
     
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  18. Aug 12, 2019 #58 of 263
    crkeehn

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    The article is not totally correct on that one. With the exception of CBS, you are given the option of selecting either the DVR version or VOD version. When both are available, there will be a drop down menu underneath the program icon.

    The C-net article is actually referring back to the early days of Youtube TV, when that was true. Customer complaints encouraged them to make the DVR versions more available.

    CBS is the only outlier for that policy. CBS seems to march to their own drummer. I think that Ideally, CBS would like you to pay them to stream their programming, they seem to be releasing a fair amount of unique streaming only content.
     
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    That's a huge difference though. If you are watching live sports and texting with someone at the game, a 10 second difference isn't a problem - if there's a touchdown and they text you by the time they type their text and send it and you read it, you'll have seen the same play. With a minute difference they might text you about a touchdown when the other team has the ball!

    Not only friends at the game, just friends watching on cable/satellite will be spoilers for you with a 60-10=50 second delay.
     
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  20. Aug 12, 2019 #60 of 263
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    What was the actual discount they applied to your account. I have a $45 discount per month good for a year with four boxes and Choice XTRA. In November I have to call back and renegotiate. Should I look for a higher discount say $60?
     

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