Great article comparing all the streaming options for cord cutters and folks thinking about it

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  1. Aug 12, 2019 #61 of 263
    mjwagner

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    LOL...that’s an easy one for me. A bit over two years ago when I finally ditched D after well over 20 years with them I had a balance on my account. I waited a few months but didn’t get anything from them so I called. They tried everything they could to get me back. They offered all new equipment for free and got down to literally less than $20 per month. I thought the guy on the phone was actually gonna cry when I kept saying no thanks. So the answer for me is they could give me D service for free and I wouldn’t go back. It has nothing to do with the money for me....and my wife and I are very lucky, we can afford pretty much anything, money is not an issue for us. But again, and I hate to sound like a broken record but it’s an important point, that’s just us. Everybody’s situation is different and what’s right for me is not right for other people.
     
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  2. Aug 12, 2019 #62 of 263
    mjwagner

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    His points aren’t “invalid”, you just don’t happen to agree with them. Just because you disagree doesn’t make them invalid but that’s apparently something you can’t wrap your head around.
     
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  3. Aug 12, 2019 #63 of 263
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    You just don't get it Mark. Try read more carefully. I'm not talking about what is "right" for me or you or anybody else. You seem stuck on that.

    I am talking about somebody saying that they saved hundreds of dollars going to streaming, but they also (I'd use the word 'lost' here, but you'd flip out if I did) "downgraded" their packages significantly and removed useless bells & whistles that they weren't using on DirecTV (i.e. protection plan).

    Sorry to upset you so much and sorry to break it to you, but comparing 7 TVs + Premiere + PP vs PSVue straight up by the "headline numbers" is simply not a valid comparison. Read carefully now: MONEY WISE.

    The other part you seem to not be able to wrap your head around is by adjusting their DirecTV packages to what they have now, they'd be in a similar price range. So, no, they aren't saving money by going to streaming, they are saving money by downgrading their packages.

    In addition, saying he likes it better because he doesn't need a box at each TV is also flat out false. RVU anybody? Wow. Look Ma! No boxes! Just like saying you can't watch recorded content "anywhere" is also false.
     
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  4. Aug 12, 2019 #64 of 263
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    Comes down to perceived value. Some people that have never cut the cord probably place a lot of value in retaining their current channels regardless of whether they watch most of them. Could be not wanting to rock the boat with simultaneous channel changes and a platform change. I know when I was planning my cord cutting move in January I thought moving to the Directv Now packages was best to minimize channel loss. However after completing 1 month free trials of Sling and YouTube TV I had a different outlook. Directv Now in the meantime overhauled their packages to make them noncompetitive. In March I realized that the additional channels I lost were not important. In most cases I picked up channels that were an improvement to the ones that I lost.
     
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  5. Aug 12, 2019 #65 of 263
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    Looks like Dancing Pat to me. :D
     
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  6. Aug 12, 2019 #66 of 263
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    I'm definitely not watching every channel in Preferred Xtra. A lot of them are crap. Majority of cord cutters cut because they think their cable bills are too high. "Perceived" value in the case I'm seeing on the forums more often then not is willing to downgrade packages on streaming, but not on DirecTV. THAT is not a fair comparison. Of course you'll save money then.

    If you are switching to streaming because a palm reader told you to do it or whatever is different from cheering the "money savings".

    I had a co-worker who signed up for DirecTV teaser prices and got Ultimate + 4K + Sunday Ticket, etc. then cried like a baby when the promos fell off and he saw the real price. He then claimed he saved a ton by switching to streaming. Yeah, duh... Ultimate has a bunch of premium channels and Sunday Ticket has always been a ripoff.
     
  7. Aug 12, 2019 #67 of 263
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    Downgrading unless you have Directv packages with movies that you don't watch usually isn't very practical. If you watch sports you will either lose your RSNs or other sports channels. YTTV has some channels (BBC World News, CBS Sports Network, FOX Sports 2, Golf Channel, Nat Geo WILD, NBA TV, Oxygen, Tennis Channel) which only appear in XTRA and above tiers of Directv.
     
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  8. Aug 12, 2019 #68 of 263
    mjwagner

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    Oh relax and don’t get your panties in a bunch. If you actually had upset me you’d know it. You perceive value in all that D provides, he obviously doesn’t, simple as that. Apparently lots of other people no longer see the value in what D is providing either which is why they are leaving in droves. But since this discussion seems to just be going in circles I’ll leave you to it...
     
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  9. Aug 12, 2019 #69 of 263
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    There does seem to be a few people who no longer subscribe to DIRECTV who spend a lot of time trying to convert others to streaming. Perhaps all of the proselytizing should be in the streaming forums on our site?
     
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  10. Aug 12, 2019 #70 of 263
    mjwagner

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    Oh wait, I missed that last sentence...RVU...LOL! Did you ever actually try it, I’m guessing not. That piece of technology was so great it’s now dead. AFAIK it’s not even supported on any TVs made after 2017. But who knows, maybe he can grab a RVU capable TV on eBay...:D
     
  11. Aug 12, 2019 #71 of 263
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    Wow you are out of touch with reality. Time to step out of your retired plastic surgeon Malibu beach house with $50k/yr in property tax and join the rest of us. You think nobody has a TV older then 2017? :rolleyes:

    Speaking of which, if somebody wants a 2017 TV, why don't they just come to your house and take YOURS since your TV is a 2017 model. :rolleyes:
     
  12. Aug 12, 2019 #72 of 263
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    Lol... indeed James. Mr. Retired Plastic Surgeon who buys a new $5000 TV every year does seem to spend a lot of time on the DirecTV forums when he doesn't even have it anymore.
     
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  13. Aug 13, 2019 #73 of 263
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    Good one, I wish! I don’t have the one tv I did have that supported RVU anymore. It was actually an older (2012) Samsung that I gave to my Daughter and Son-in-law when I upgraded that set to a 2017 LG OLED65B7A...and yeah that one is sweet...:). I did try out RVU on that Samsung, it was not very good. None of the other sets in my house ever had RVU support either because they were too old and not “smart” tvs or the manufacturer simply wasn’t one that had RVU (it was a pretty short list). So I guess the idea was that if you wanted to use RVU so you didn’t have a box at every tv you actually did have to be a retired plastic surgeon so you could afford to replace all your tvs with ones that had RVU support...:cool:
     
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  14. Aug 13, 2019 #74 of 263
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    A psychologist would say people who stick around forums for a product they no longer use trying to convince others to make the decision they made obviously have a need to see others make the same decision so they can feel better about the decision they made.
     
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  15. Aug 13, 2019 #75 of 263
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    Or you might want to know what you actually own... the B7A is a 2017 model.
     
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    SledgeHammer

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    LOL :D.

    Choice-supportive bias - Wikipedia
     
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  17. Aug 13, 2019 #77 of 263
    SledgeHammer

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    I never said it was good, I said saying you can't have a boxless setup was false. Personally, I like to let my TVs CPU do TV type stuff rather then waste its time doing computationally expensive decryption stuff. Same way you buy a discrete video card rather then using the one on the mobo even if you don't play games for no other reason then letting the CPU do CPU stuff instead of rendering video.
     
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    My bill went from $145.42 to $76.48 (taxes included on both). I have the itemized old bill printed out, but I don't have an itemized new one so I don't know exactly what they did yet. I didn't change anything, and there's nothing on my current bill that is equal or totals the difference of $68.94.

    I believe part of it is the same $45 loyalty discount, however.
     
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  19. Aug 13, 2019 #79 of 263
    mjwagner

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    Agreed. I don't run apps on my TVs. I use streaming devices to run apps. Modern streaming devices are small, unobtrusive (FireTV Stick 4ks are slightly bigger than a pack of gum), and use very little power so I don't mind having them connected to my TVs.
     
  20. Aug 13, 2019 #80 of 263
    mjwagner

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    I personally like to keep abreast of developments across the technology spectrum. I also enjoy intelligent discussion which does occur here, occasionally...LOL. I follow/participate in many online forums. This is just one of them.
     

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