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Has E* surpassed D* with HD channel count

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Justin23, May 15, 2009.

  1. deaincaelo

    deaincaelo AllStar

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    i think this is my point. just look at the adjective difference in D* and E.

    Now, i know i didnt check every day. However, when D* added all those channels i was spectacularly unimpressed with thier creative math. In terms of hd channels, with actual HD content, E* still beat them in terms of the channels i would get. Its really the only think i hold against either satilite proveder. I just felt it was deceptive. Now E* is legitamately in the lead again after being tied for a good while, and they're getting called out on the same creative math D* started.

    i dont want to come off as a fanboy, i just wonder at it.
     
  2. dcowboy7

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    i think dish is counting part time channels to push up their counts though....directv didnt do that.
     
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  4. mcbeevee

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    There are only 2 HD channels (Travel/Encore) I want that Dish has. No reason for me to panic...I can make it another 6 months w/o those.

    :)
     
  5. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    You keep using the argument of "E* beats them in terms of channels I would get" or channels you care about. But you don't seem to get that it works both ways. D* still blows away E* in HD content *I* care about and it's not even close? Hallmark and Lifetime? LOL I've never even tuned to either channel, ever. Just an example.

    Back a year or two ago D* only "fudged the numbers" in terms of PPV. E* fudges the numbers by counting part time channels. They both fudge the numbers but it's only a "fudge" if you actually care about those things.

    Right now D* and E* are basically the same in terms of number of HD channels and such. Thus it's not really "huge news" that E* added a couple channels, some of which D* already has.

    It comes down to the age old story of DirecTV vs. Dish (vs. cable vs. FIOS): Which one carries the channels you care about most at the best price. Figure that out and go with that one. Neither one is a "winner". We the customer are the winners because of the competition.
     
  6. deaincaelo

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    I understand its not a big deal. I dont expect it to be life-changing, just thought it would get more mention then it has. lets ignore the channels i get, and all the local, regional, and ppv channels not everyone can get.

    why are d*'s 77 nationally available channels better then E*'s 91? even if you just include core programming and not movies, its still 60 to 70. what part time channels is E* counting in that, and why is that worse then -for example -D* including SCI FI as a HD channel for months without it actually showing a moment of HD content?

    btw, thanks for the link. It matches the channel counts i added up on my own perfectly.
     
  7. BattleZone

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    I don't think anyone is arguing that Dish is currently leading the HD channel count. And with their recent editions, they picked up most of the most-wanted channels that they were missing, so clearly they are in good shape there.

    There's no point in discussing the *amount* of HD content on an HD channel; it varies, and it is slowly increasing on all the HD channels that started with little HD content. It's a "chicken or the egg" thing; the production companies won't pay to shoot something in HD unless there's an HD channel to air it on.

    The big question is: why isn't Dish doing more to advertise their lead?

    The answer likely lies in the state of the economy, and the fact that the 2nd quarter is the slowest period of the year for TV sales. They may feel that they won't get a lot of traction right now. But the market numbers seem to show that people are still paying for TV at a pretty good pace.
     
  8. harsh

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    Instead they deliver SD on the HD channels because as the apologists like to point out, the SD incarnation is "unwatchable".
     
  9. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    Regional Sports Networks (RSNs). Most of them are part time on Dish but full time channels on DirecTV. And DirecTV "counts" them because they are available nationaly to anyone that gets the sports pack just like the movie channels are available to anyone that pays for it.

    Might want to get your facts straight on that one. ;) The very week SciFi HD launched on DirecTV most of the SciFriday shows (BSG, Atlantis) were in HD and many of their movies started showing up in HD the following week.
     
  10. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

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    Sure, and Dish doesn't do the same thing. :rolleyes:

    The channel owner makes an HD feed available. DirecTV, Dish and others carry it. Yet DirecTV gets the "blame" for little HD content on the channel? Please. Remember when ESPN HD only had 1 or 2 games *a week* in HD and that was it? And were were loving every minute of it. How jaded people have become...
     
  11. harsh

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    As you and others have been pointing out on an ad nauseum basis, DISH simply turns off the HD channels for RSNs when they aren't offering HD content.
     

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