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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by reubenray, Jul 14, 2015.
Will there ever be an option for having two genie receivers?
I'm not even sure The Shadow knows the answer to that one...
"ever" seems like a very long term. I would think that one day more than one Genie would be allowed, but my feeling is that day is not "soon"
Not until they rewrite the software.
Allowing only one genie is one of the very few means they have to combat stacking. It's not much but their push for clients over DVRs will likely continue and when the hr24 hits eol they might be the only option.
"There will never be Dual Live Buffers."
"Autocorrect on FF can only exist on Tivo DVRs."
"DIRECTV won't have Tivo based DVRs again."
I suggest you might consider "Never more than one genie" as a famous quote. Note--I do not have any news, I do not know if DIRECTV ever will. But future guessing DIRECTV, the FCC requirements for an IP based home network solution, etc. make me consider...
It would take some updates to various software to work. Some of the posts give hints as to parts needing updates...
They do not need to rewrite the software.
It has nothing to do with stacking.
And of course the other thing is, how much demand is there for this? Many of us aren't "average" customers.
Considering the software is rewritten several times a week, that does not seem to be a helpful answer.
Here's one that's more helpful -
Multiple Genie support is not "off the radar" given the release of the new H44 Genie Lite, but there's still a challenge in justifying the time required for the project vs. the real demand. As many have said, over 95% of people are just fine with a 4-room setup and of those 5% that aren't, over 90% are satisfied with just adding one or two more HR24s.
Logistically, however, for those few who, like me, would like 15 tuners due to multiple programming conflicts, 3 Genies would be far less complicated than 1 Genie and 5 HR2x DVRs.
I think you have far too much time on your hands.
Software for what?
I would think that the software would need to be written such that a mini or receiver that is on Whole Home had the choice of which Genie it was going to communicate with it. It seems to me that it would not be that hard to do.
You would need a choice of Genies when you pressed the Guide or the List button to choose which one to communicate with and from there your choices and programming would be the same as usual.
I believe it will happen that there are multiple Genies in one network.
If I could get two Genie's I would not care if they connected to each other. I just need the capabilities of more tuners without getting additional DVR's and giving D* more of my $$.
Not today, as 1 Genie + 5 HR2x can run off a SWM16, while 3 Genies cannot. I think Stuart is on the money with his idea that since one Genie is enough for most, and those few can get as many HR2x as they'd like, there's little to justify the effort today.
Maybe they will someday allow multiple Genies someday, but if they were going to do so, why wait? Once the HR2x is too old and they no longer offer them they'll have to have something in place for customers for whom one Genie isn't enough. Maybe they're planning bigger changes by then, like a Genie with many more tuners and multi-user features (so different people can have different playlists) or replacing it with something entirely new that everyone wants so no one cares about getting two Genies any longer.
What do you have now? If you had two Genies and nothing else for 10 tuners, versus one Genie and two HR2x for 9 tuners, that's only $6.50 difference a month - and even then only if you have fewer than three TVs.
I think you are over complicating how it'd work. Actually pretty sure.
It's not something you need to be able to change all the time at all. In fact you really would never need to.
No one ever believes me but I personally think the biggest reason they don't want to do it today is install requirements. If we ever see a 22swim then that will be gone. Even if we only see a a 13 channel swim that would allow two genies.
They don't need to be in a rush because they still have the two tuner DVRs but someday they will all hit EOL and then they will have to support something for more rooms. But I believe they will through natural progress have the higher capacity swims by then and it'll all work out just fine.
Personally I don't think it's happening but I always thought we'd see something more like an 20 channel swim system (both an lnb and a switch version) that uses moca 2 with more nodes and bandwidth and BSS support. Roll all that into one and you solve just about every limitation the bigger systems can have.