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HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray War Thread - Update: Toshiba formally announces end of HD DVD

Discussion in 'The Movies' started by Nick, Apr 23, 2007.

  1. Jason Nipp

    Jason Nipp Analog Geek in a Digital World Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

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    Already have that set... It is awesome. In number one where the goblin is fighting at the end Spidey.... The clarity and picture is just awesome....
     
  2. Stewart Vernon

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    I've seen bits and pieces of Spidey #1 and #2 in HD on FOX... but since FOX is "only" 720p, I figure that's just the tip of the iceburg when compared to the Blu ray version.

    Back when I bought my HD DVD player, I was tempted to go Blu ray for Spidey... but couldn't justify the price difference at the time and at that moment, other than Spidey, more movies I wanted were on HD DVD.

    I left the room, but there was a "promo" spot on the local news a few minutes ago mentioning Toshiba. I was actually surprised to see that on the local news, but then we have WRAL-5 that was the first HD station in the country, so it makes sense.
     
  3. Stewart Vernon

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    That would be my guess. I also liken this to some of the DVD double-dips in recent years. There are some movies that came out, then 6-months later an "extended" or "director's" cut would be released. Sometimes I double-dipped, other times I didn't. It all depended upon how much I liked the movie AND how much value was added to the new release.

    I also double-dipped on DVDs when a new anamorphic widescreen was released for older DVDs that weren't anamorphic.

    I know on HD DVD, a couple of double-dips already happened with Troy and Full Metal Jacket. In addition to the "director's cut" I gather they also re-encoded and cleaned up the transfers on those movies.

    So it probably would pay on Blu ray to compare and look for reviews. If a movie is out and has a good review for picture quality, and I wanted it, then I'd probably go ahead and buy now rather than "wait" to see if a new one came out with BD-Live or whatever enhancements on it.

    In a related note... I just bought the price-reduced Complete Matrix trilogy at Best Buy. A great deal ($40 since I had a 10% off coupon as well as the new price) on HD DVD. You can't get them at all on Blu ray, and it may be a while... but even so hard to beat the price now.

    BUT... Best Buy also has Smallville Season 5 and 6 for $40 (I have another 10% off I could use) each. For some wacky reasoning... Warner released season 5 and 6 on HD DVD, but only season 6 on Blu ray. I figure it will be a while before I have a Blu ray player, so am tempted to get seasons 5 and 6 on HD DVD... but now I know they'll not go back and do 1-4 on HD DVD... so I'm hesitant. I think at about $20 I'd buy without question, so I'll keep watching.

    I never did buy Star Trek season 1 or Battlestar Galactica on HD, because I'd already bought those on SD and it was too recently purchased to double-dip... so in those cases, I no longer plan on getting them unless they get dirt cheap because I figure those will get Blu ray re-releases at some point.
     
  4. texaswolf

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    I wouldn't count on re-releases with a majority of the BD players sold being PS3's....just be safe and get one...then you'll also have a game console to play while waiting for releases....plus you'll always be able to get updates.:D
     
  5. Jason Nipp

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    Thats just a tit for tat move. Any of you that rememeber the VHS- Beta war, rememeber that Toshiba helped Sony keep the Beta format alive for so long by manufactoring the Beta player for Sony.

    Now the real question is if Sony will do here like they did in the European countries and offer us a trade in allowance to buy a BP player.

    Over seas they are letting you trade in the Toshiba HD DVD Players for money off the BP player.
     
  7. AlbertZeroK

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    Oh great, another 100 posts about how Sony bought off Toshiba with a Chip plant...
     
  8. Jason Nipp

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    Hundred? Don't you mean 2506 posts? :grin:

    Oh, and wasn't it Tosh that paid the 835 million to Sony..... :lol: ya I know I tried to spin that one.. :grin:
     
  9. RAD

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    This story is getting more TV coverage then I thought it would. I've seen it on national network news, cable news channels, local news (story and news crawl). I wonder how many people even knew there was two different HDM formats?
     
  10. AlbertZeroK

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    Or even three? (Does HD-VMD Even Count?)
     
  11. chris0

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    First reports of that sale were back in October. Besides, Sony, Toshiba and IBM worked together to develop the Cell chip, so Toshiba's had a stake in it all along.
     
  12. machavez00

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    question: Blade Runner, if you have both players which to buy the BD or HD version, both are the same price.
     
  13. elaclair

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    Just noticed something odd with Warner's commercials.

    They've been advertising Michael Clayton, but the last time I saw the commercial, the announcer's final line has changed. He now says "Own it today on DVD and BluRay-hi definition". Even though the image also has the HD-DVD case shown. Didn't think too much of it at first, but then saw the commercial for No Reservations, and the same thing...the announcer mentions the standard DVD and Blu-Ray, but not the HD-DVD release.
     
  14. Mike728

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    I have both players and I wouldn't buy either right now. I'll bet the HD-DVD version comes down pretty quickly.
     
  15. Jason Nipp

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    Which format will have better resale value if you choose to sell the disc off some day?

    Which format is gonna live longer?

    Now that I have said that, with all the firesales on HD-DVD that everyone is anticipating, I'd definitely watch for a cheap closeout HD-DVD version of it.
     
  16. Jason Nipp

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    They have been saying "Own it today on BLU Ray High DEF DVD" for awhile. Started way before the Superbowl.
     
  17. Stuart Sweet

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    Agreed, and also if I saw a set of Star Trek:TOS season one on HDDVD for real cheap, I'd pick that up too. It's a combo disc, so you don't lose out, and it's bound to be collectible.
     
  18. elaclair

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    Okay, maybe I'm just losing it a bit, but could have sworn that previously they also included "and coming soon to HD-DVD".......:rolleyes:
     
  19. Chris Blount

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    I thought they couldn't associate "Blu-Ray" with "DVD". It is my understanding that Blu-Ray is a proprietary format and not approved by the DVD forum thus cannot be called a DVD.
     
  20. jwebb1970

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    Actually, Ep I has already been tweaked.

    The Muppet Yoda from that film has been replaced with the CG Yoda from II/III. There is a snippet of it on the REVENGE OF THE SITH bonus materials DVD.

    Look for the short documentary on Vader. During an interview w/ Hayden C, he starts saying the whole "fear leads to anger..." bit & it fades to the shot from Ep I, except Yoda is now CG.

    Apparently was done during post on EpIII. Lucas wanted the PT Yoda to be consistent. The "classic" Muppet, however, will never be replaced according to ILM people.

    If Lucas yet again drowns the market in SW discs ("but now in HD"), I hope it is a "clearing the vaults" set - all deleted footage, behind the scenes stuff, TV specials, interviews, etc..and every version of each film.

    Do a "real" commentary w/ the OT stars in a room at the same time w/ GL talking about their experiences. And no more Ben Burtt!!! Yes, we know where the R2 sounds came from!!!
     

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