HD DVR due mid AUGUST IN L.A!

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by ralphfurley, Jul 27, 2006.

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  1. Aug 9, 2006 #141 of 187
    Earl Bonovich

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    Unless you modify the circut board, to replace the decoder chips.
    And update the tuners (two of them)

    And then tweak the OS to work with what ever chipsets you replaced it with, and tuners.... Let alone tweak the OS to know it now can see the other two sats....

    You are looking at some SIGNIFICANT work there to try and modify...
    And then that work would cost $$$ to sell, and install (as it wouldn't be an easy replacement to solder out one of the KEY components of the main board)....

    So if someone IS working on it, expect to pay $$$ (probably more then you paid for the HR10-250)
     
  2. Aug 9, 2006 #142 of 187
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    More shopping channels! :D
     
  3. Aug 9, 2006 #143 of 187
    harsh

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    They are likely not interested in maintaining what little relationship they have left with TiVo, so they are getting rid of two rather large pieces of baggage by converting the HD DVR users over.

    They are keenly interested in being able to add new content; especially the locals that they don't have. Many of the existing markets have three or more times as many HD channels available as D* is serving up. Locals are a major competitive edge for cable in D*'s mind. Imagine how much bandwidth they could save if they converted New York and Los Angeles to MPEG4! As it is, they may not have enough spotbeam to offer all of the available channels in the markets with many HD stations.

    I'm sure that they are chomping at the bit to add the PBS-HD stations at the very least.
     
  4. Aug 9, 2006 #144 of 187
    harsh

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    Even if you mod'ed your HR10 to recognize and play back MPEG4 content, DirecTV would not grant you access to the MPEG4 content.
     
  5. Alan Gordon

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    I can't speak much about the nationals, but DirecTV is in the process of switching over people receiving West coast HD-DNS (as well as those within the LA DMA)without HD-DVRs to the H20, and intending on switching those with HD-DVRs to the HR20 after it comes out in preparation for cutting off the MPEG2 LA networks. Once that is completed, you can surely expect to see DirecTV start moving the East coast folks over to MPEG4 NY networks.

    ~Alan
     
  6. P Smith

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    And again, DirecTV do not support MPEG-2 compression at all !!! :(

    You don't know the method of DTV compression what you talking about !
    Oh man :( !
     
  7. Earl Bonovich

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    Huh?

    So why in DirecTV's own official statements...
    (MPEG-4 conversion statements, and the webcast from just a few days ago)... they refer to it as the MPEG-2 -> MPEG-4 conversion.

    Their "MPEG-2" may not be the open standard MPEG-2 compliant, so it can be used on any "MPEG-2" device
    http://www.coolstf.com/mpeg/#mpeg2na
    But it is MPEG-2 based....

    And another great internet source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirecTV

    Also referring to the stream as "MPEG-2"

    And another: The Video is MPEG-2 but the Audio is MPEG-1
    http://nedron.net/fom_server/cache/64.html


    "Most" people, wouldn't know what MPEG-2 is vs MPEG-4 even if it was "compliant" MPEG2; they just want to know what they need to do to get the channels they want to see.
    And for the sake "of ease" to describe it, without going into the really deep nitty gritty details of how the codecs work, and why the data streams "aren't" technically mpeg-2 or probably even technically "mpeg-4" for that matter.... For 99.9% of the customers out there.... MPEG2; MPEG4 terms work just fine...
     
  8. Herdfan

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    Teays...
    Semantics. Maybe we should refer to it as CURRENT and FUTURE compression. Would that be OK with you? Are you with the MPEG-2 police?:confused:
     
  9. Mr. Krizz

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    Saw this on eBay:
    cgi.ebay.com/GET-NFL-SUNDAY-TICKET-AND-DIRECTV-HD-DVR-HR20-250_W0QQitemZ190008180523QQihZ009QQcategoryZ108137QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    anyone know any more whether this is available now or not?
     
  10. Earl Bonovich

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    No it is not valid...

    The title has HR20-250, but the pictures are for the H20 and the HR10-250

    The "Deal" may be valid... but i would say 99% chance that it is not for an HR20

    (since the real model number is HR20-700)
     
  11. bonscott87

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    Should be pretty easy since there aren't that many HD customers anyway (under 1 million still I believe). Plus all new HD customers have been getting the H20 for about 6 months now as it is.

    HD LIL and especially the HD RSN's will get a good number of those to switch on their own because a good number of HD customers are sports fans as well and they'll switch in a heartbeat. I'd guess that NFL Sunday Ticket Superfan and it's HD games will be on MPEG 4 only next season to push those last stragglers along.

    And they will be shutting off the MPEG2 HD streams as soon as they can to free up bandwidth on the main sats. It's been their plan all along. As Earl said, probably by the end of 2007 they'll have this done baring any sat launch delays next year. Early 2008 at the latest I'd say.

    They are already agressively getting people off the MPEG2 HD L.A. distants and onto the MPEG4 version so they can shut off the L.A. MPEG2 feeds ASAP as in end of this year if they can. Thus another reason for the HR20 rolling out in L.A. first.
     
  12. Mr. Krizz

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    thanks man, I thought it might be a fake.....I've left them a message, I'll let you know what they say......

    - Mr. Krizz
     
  13. skessel

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    Hi, long time reader, first time poster...

    I live in LA, and called at least 5 times. CSR's knew nothing (they all said "in the fall") on the HR20 so I used the HD Tivo blowout and got the HR10-250... Did I rush into it?? I hope I've made the right decision...

    SK
     
  14. Earl Bonovich

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    The HR10-250 is a fine box.....
    And I don't know the pricing of the HR20 yet soo.... it is hard to say.... if you "rushed" into it...
     
  15. skessel

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    Well, I don't feel so bad 'bout the "purchase" then, especially seeing how I used the "Blowout Special" to get a free one. :lol:
     
  16. twaller

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    Oh Man, everytime I read something like this I get a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. I paid $1,000 for mine in October of 2004!! Oh well...........maybe I will be able to keep it when I'm swapped out for an HR20.
     
  17. f300v10

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    No way will D* take my HR10-250 when I get an HR20. I like you paid big $$ and I own the box . My plan is to replace my H20 I now have alongside the HDTivo with the HR20, and use both the HR20 and HR10-250 until the HR20 has proven to me that it is a reliable unit. The HR10 will be my 'insurance' box.
     
  18. skessel

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    Yeah, I hope they let me keep mine too, but since I paid $0 for it (I'm still in seventh heaven about that one) it's not like I'll be too sad.
     
  19. dan8379

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    I'm pretty sure that those of us who got ours free will have to turn ours over, unless we choose to pay full price for the new one.
     
  20. Kash76

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    Screw that, I "own" this one. I'm not doing a lease exchange. Funny, only months ago they were trying to tell me how great it was that I own my equipment. Oh, that's right, I can't use it anywhere else!!!
     
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