1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

HD DVRs, HD Receivers and R22: Fall 2011 National Release Issues/Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Aug 11, 2011.

  1. Drucifer

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

    9,407
    244
    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    All? :scratch:
     
  2. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    15,364
    580
    Dec 2, 2010
    Winters,...
    Perhaps using the Guide or Search functions would work well for her? It'd be nice to have a toggle to go Text or Images, but I'm not holding my breath.
     
  3. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    14,040
    94
    Jan 24, 2007
    I don't remember any that were unreadable but I'll look through them and check.

    Mike
     
  4. Scott Kocourek

    Scott Kocourek Well-Known Member

    9,491
    523
    Jun 13, 2009
    You may want to get a calibration dvd for your dvd player and calibrate your television. The new UI looks great as long as the television is calibrated properly.

    This will help a lot of people.
     
  5. Burt

    Burt AllStar

    139
    1
    Jul 14, 2005
    She likes to browse through movies. Unfortunately, that is no longer possible for her. I tried our old trick of browsing on channel 1100, hoping for plain text. It now defaults to the posters.

    On the poster display, about a third of the entries are decipherable to her if she keeps her nose about 12 inches from the monitor. Her only option if I'm not around is to select the posters one by one and read the descriptions. This is very time consuming. It's just not practical. Doesn't do much for the WAF.
     
  6. Burt

    Burt AllStar

    139
    1
    Jul 14, 2005
    You may be right. Right now we're watching on an old 34" Sony CRT. The picture is reasonably sharp, but pretty small by today's standards.

    I will be pulling the trigger on 55" LED flat screen some time in January or February. I hope that will improve things. If not, I will certainly try your suggestion.

    Thanks,

    Burt
     
  7. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    15,364
    580
    Dec 2, 2010
    Winters,...
    Burt-

    I have a strong suspicion—and hope— that your future plan will solve the problem completely.

    Best wishes!
     
  8. Burt

    Burt AllStar

    139
    1
    Jul 14, 2005
    Thanks.
     
  9. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    27,213
    551
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Or buy a Panny plasma and get a great picture right out of the box. I've now got eight, all running on "Vivid", as a Panasonic tech suggested to me, because, as he said, why would you want to dim the great colors the display puts out? It does take about a week or so for the PQ to "calm down" and, on one of my three 1080p sets I did have to make a minor adjustment on hue or tint or something like that. I have tried the calibration discs and have always gone back to the Vivid setting.

    And, yes, I can clearly read everything on the new GUI including the posters. The only thing I did wrong with the Pannys was to buy five 720p sets. They still have very good pictures on them, but I do wish I had waited a bit or just bought them all in 1080p. The GUI is still perfectly clear on the 720p sets.

    Rich
     
  10. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    14,602
    372
    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    The settings look good to you and that's the most important thing, but the settings aren't accurate.
     
  11. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    27,213
    551
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    This is something that's been on my mind for quite a while and I'd like to discus it. If a Mod wants me to start a thread about it, I'd be happy to.

    I have tried LCDs and I'll agree that they need some kind of calibration when they come out of the box. But, I'm not alone in my opinions about the Panny plasmas being good right out of the box. And I know it's not like that with all plasmas, but the only other one I've tried is a Phillips. Took that back rather quickly.

    Just about every calibration disc or method I've tried has said the same thing: You'll get used to the picture in a week or two. What is that? I like the colors I get out of the Pannys and every method of calibration I've tried has caused those colors to dim. I'm supposed to get used to that?

    Years ago, I signed a purchase order for a projector for an auditorium that we were redoing. About $40,000 for the projector itself. The whole setup was for the projector to put a picture on a huge screen (don't remember the size, but it was a really big room) and two Mitsubishi 34" CRT screens. Took almost two weeks to calibrate that thing. Two weeks of desperately trying to mediate the constant arguments between our IT contractors and the IT guys from the place we bought the projector from.

    I've always been leery about TVs that needed to be calibrated after that.

    I know what the Yankees uniforms are supposed to look like, I know what a baseball is supposed to look like, I know what an apple, peach and pear is supposed to look like. I know what famous folks are supposed to look like. I didn't see those colors on those objects when I calibrated the Pannys. I saw dull renderings of what should have been vivid colors. The worst thing I saw was a very dull American flag. I know what that's supposed to look like and it didn't and it never changed until I went back and reset the TV.

    Your turn.... :lol: (I'm not trying to start a massive argument).

    Rich
     
  12. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

    37,060
    287
    Jun 18, 2006
    I'm completely, 100% on Rich's side here. Now, I have used calibration discs to set up my TVs, and I have been personally happy with the results in general. However, when I haven't been happy, then I adjusted things to my personal preferences and not to someone else's reference levels. I found the picture on my new Blu-ray player was a bit dim at reference levels, and I pumped up the backlight two notches and scaled back the dynamic contrast. Now it suits me fine and I don't give a whit whether or not a test pattern says it's right.
     
  13. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    14,602
    372
    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    Out of the box (we'll call vivid for discussion purposes) plasmas usually look good on most sets, but waiting a bit to adjust it will really make a difference. I used to like the vivid look...colors really popped, especially on outdoor scenes. I was really happy when I saw my Samsung c8000 out the box, and didn't adjust much until I broke it in.

    Then, I adjusted stuff to recommended reference settings. With a little tweaking I got it just right, but it seemed dim...and it was. However, I noticed it was more natural and that's the key. A Yankees game on YES, which IMO is one of the best PQ channels for sports, looked like I was there. It didn't overpower a room with light...it naturally filled it.
     
  14. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    15,364
    580
    Dec 2, 2010
    Winters,...
    "Needing" calibration out of the box would be a bad sign to me, too. After a week or so, I put in settings that were recommended by some expert or other on my two Sammies. Hardly noticeable, and I think I'd be just as happy with the results if I hadn't changed a thing. I occasionally change a setting or two such as picture style, but I don't care for Vivid personally, at least on these sets. So it's pretty much movie or sports settings.
     
  15. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    27,213
    551
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    I just got thru watching the Rutgers bowl game this morning and was quite satisfied with the PQ on the new plasma. I don't know if YES does any of the actual coverage of games played in the Stadium, but it was pretty good. Iowa State's helmets were especially noticeable and their color really stood out.

    Rich
     
  16. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    27,213
    551
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    That Phillips plasma I bought didn't look good out of the box. Every time I changed to a different channel, I had to reset the settings. My first thought was, "Oh no, they're not all the same (meaning plasmas)". Not what I expected, figured a plasma was a plasma. Now I'm leery of any TV but a Panny plasma and I wouldn't even consider their LCD sets (bad reviews).

    Rich
     
  17. Jan 4, 2012 #277 of 324
    Invion

    Invion New Member

    3
    0
    Dec 29, 2011
    OK SAME PROBLEM,(Pix looks like in Zoom Mode)
    OK DTV Tech came out yesterday 1/03/12,He swapped out 3 boxes,but that didn,t do any good,,,,OK ,Lets go back to what happened,On 12/26 @2:48pm my wife was in the kitchen making a late lunch for us,she saw (as what she described) A Bright Flash,then the pix (on her TV) went into what looks like zoom mode,I was in the living room,(I dozed off,when she walked in with lunch I awokened ,looked at my 55 inch tv,and said Hey ,this looks like in zoom mode,,,,wife said hers did that to, ok I grab the remote,check settings all is well,,,,So I start thinking OK maybe an electrical glitch,,,,,I go into the bedroom, turn power strip on ,(power strip is for tv only) pix comes on and that TV is is in what looks like zoom mode,,,,Hmmm,3 tv,s same problem,,,,Nope not an electrical glitch,,,,,Dtv says they never seen anything like it,,,,,anyone ever experiance this problem before.....On a side note,I had a freind bring over an extra 42In, (hdmi tv) he had in his basement,hooked it up to dtv,,,,and that was in stretch mode too, he takes it back home,,,,rehooks it up to his dtv box and all is well.....HELP...
     
  18. Jan 4, 2012 #278 of 324
    Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    27,213
    551
    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    The simplest thing to do, I would think, is convince D* that there is a major problem with your "system" (the dish to the HRs, I think you proved that by using your friends TV. Good troubleshooting, BTW.)

    Keep calling constantly. You should be directed to the Case Management Group after three calls about the same issues. The CMG can and will help you thru this. You'll be told that the CMG will contact you in a couple hours, stay home and wait, they will call.

    Rich
     
  19. Jan 4, 2012 #279 of 324
    DogLover

    DogLover Hall Of Fame

    2,510
    0
    Mar 18, 2007
    To summarize, 6 different DIRCTV boxes, and 4 different TVs have the exact same problem. One of those TVs works fine at your friends house with his DIRECTV box. Is that correct?

    You described the issue in your friends's TV as stretch mode, and on your TVs as zoom mode. Did they look the same, or different? I assume you cycled the formats on your TVs. Did the zoom mode on your TV zoom the picture an extra amount?

    Did you try HD and SD channels? Did they change the symptoms any? Did you unplug the TV (other than the one you mentioned was on the power strip?) or DIRECTV boxes and then reboot them? Did that change any symptoms?
     
  20. Jan 5, 2012 #280 of 324
    Invion

    Invion New Member

    3
    0
    Dec 29, 2011
    NO my freinds TV is fine,1080i,pillar box,,Yes I went through all the formats,but it didn,t do any good.His pix at his house looks fine,,,,,when he brought his tv over to my house,it looked like it was totally zoomed out,,,,,Now a DTV Field Supervisor called me yesterday,,,,,all he could do was tell me to be patient,DTV is working on the problem.His Tech (the tech that swapped out the boxes ) told the field supervisor it indeed looks like a DTV issue.
     

Share This Page