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HD DVRs, Receivers and R22: 0x05D2/0x45D2/0x5D3/0x59D/0x5CD Issues/Discussion

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Jun 19, 2012.

  1. Church AV Guy

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    Okay, I'll agree with you that it isn't your television, that it's DirecTV who (apparently) recently reduced the overscan, or the signal that they get from their source has a reduced overscan. Even though it isn't the fault your television, adjusting the overscan setting on your TV WILL eliminate the problem. It will also be much easier for you to successfully change the overscan on your TV than for you to successfully get DirecTV to change the overscan of their broadcast signal.

    What is the make and model of your television?
     
  2. inkahauts

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    Personally, I wish dtv let us mess with raster settings on the boxes. Long ago,you could some of them. there are just to any tvs with different settings to really blame anyone for the issue.
     
  3. buggs1a

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    What is overscan setting?
     
  4. Church AV Guy

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    Again, what is the make and model of your television?
     
  5. buggs1a

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    Sorry. It's 42" LCD AOC brand. Don't know model right now.
    I'll be able to find setting in menu if I knew what to look for. But this totally pisses me off that directv screwed this up.
     
  6. Church AV Guy

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    I attempted to download the manul, but it appears the document I was able to find has only 18 pages. It that the real size of the owner's manual for your television? That's a mighty small manual.
     
  7. Aug 1, 2012 #127 of 170
    bpratt

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    One thing to consider is the value of electronic capacitors change with age and use. As a TV ages and the capacitors loose their value, minor adjustments might need to be made to accommodate those changes. I have a Mitsubishi TV that I purchased in 2004. I have gone into the service menu three times since I purchased that TV to get rid of the noise at the top of the screen. I think if DirecTV had screwed this up, there would be more people unhappy with the current NR.
     
  8. Aug 1, 2012 #128 of 170
    dpeters11

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    And then there's "capacitor plague".
     
  9. Aug 1, 2012 #129 of 170
    buggs1a

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    I have no idea how big the manual is. I forget.
    I don't get this all the time. Like I haven't today or yesterday. So hmm. But I will try to go into the tv menu and see what's there. I'll try to get the model # too from the back.
     
  10. Aug 7, 2012 #130 of 170
    buggs1a

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    I just realized. Well first I know for a fact this is a dtv problem. Next is the tv doesn't matter. It happens in the tiny video window too so it's got nothing to do with the tv.
     
  11. Aug 7, 2012 #131 of 170
    Sea bass

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    I find if my Toshiba is on "Native" a channel like Hallmark (312) there is "noise" at the top of my screen. I simply switch the TV setting from "Native" to "Full", the screen image gets a bit bigger (not much) and the image "noise" is gone. My neighbors Samsung has no "Native" setting, just "16x9"....If anything, the TV manufacturer(s) is to blame.
     
  12. Aug 7, 2012 #132 of 170
    inkahauts

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    It's really no ones fault. Different manufacturers have different settings, so DIRECTV may tweak something to work a little better with some and it might be to the detriment to another. The only perfect solution is for them to give us raster controls. They can't make it perfect for everyone's tvs off one setting. No one can. Most devices over scan far more than needed to avoid the issue, I'd rather the get it closer to the edge and see more picture.
     
  13. Aug 7, 2012 #133 of 170
    Church AV Guy

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    Both of you are correct. Yes, it's DirecTVs fault, IF you call it a fault. Many televisions are guilty of setting the default overscan to too great a number. This makes it display a larger picture, at the cost of the loss of the edges. CRT TVs were notorious for this. (The HDNet test pattern had a screen designed to show the overscan of your television, alas the test pattern is no longer being shown.:)) Recently, the broadcasters have come under fire (by who, I am not sure) for sending out an overscanned video signal, so they have responded dialing back the amount of overscan. This has resulted in some televisions seeing a scan line or two of the vertical blanking interval on the top of their visible picture.

    Yes, you will see it in the small picture-in-picture image first, sometimes even if it is not in the main picture. This is because the PIP does not have the same image boundries (the console:D) that the main picture does. If your television does not allow you to adjust the picture "size" or "overscan" then I can only suggest you send a letter to the manufacturer and ask about it. DirecTV is very unlikely to change their settings to suit you or me.
     
  14. Aug 7, 2012 #134 of 170
    inkahauts

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    All tvs and I do believe also all DIRECTV boxes have the ability to have their raster settings changed. Just not by us... :(
     
  15. Aug 8, 2012 #135 of 170
    buggs1a

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    I blame directv only because I never had this issue till directv broke the resolution messing up so may avrs. I even get the your tv does not support this resolution box for a brief second every time I switch from live to valiant recorded. So I know directv has not fully fixed the issue.

    My tv goes wide, zoom, standard etc. wide is the only one that I prefer as the others loose picture and don't fill the whole tv. By of course zoom gets rid of the line up top since it zooms in.
     
  16. Aug 8, 2012 #136 of 170
    Church AV Guy

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    That isn't the picture size adjustment I'm talking about. The one I am referring to is the ability to change the size by a tiny increment at a time, maybe one pixel at a time.
     
  17. Aug 8, 2012 #137 of 170
    buggs1a

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    Ok cool. None of our tvs have that.
     
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    The receiver has spontaneously rebooted twice today; once earlier today and just now. The report is from just after the second reboot tonight.

    I was watching a program from an HR21-100 when it bounced.
     
  19. JeffBowser

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    Word of advice - you are banging your head against a wall trying to assign "blame" for this problem. As much as you wish it to be exclusively a DirecTV issue, wishing does not make it so. It's just like those irritating Dolby Digital and audio sync issues were not exclusive to DirecTV. You'll be much happier, and end up with a solved problem, if you let go of the blame game and avail yourself of the workarounds others more patient than me have been so kind to point out to you.


    Oh, and to stay on topic, my DVR's are back to slow response again. I'll repeat my broken record mantra - throw some effing processing power at these things, DirecTV.

     
  20. buggs1a

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    I can't do anything about this.
    And yes, it is directv fault. That is a fact.
    I've never had dd audio sync issues.
     

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