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HD DVRs, Receivers, and R22: Nov. 2011 Release Issues/Discussion (HD GUI)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Oct 28, 2011.

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  1. ejhuzy

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    I could have sworn that the old non-dvr GUI had posters. Am I remembering wrong?
     
  2. DTVforalongtime

    DTVforalongtime New Member

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    Version is 0x57b.
     
  3. Drucifer

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    I missed that post. Who ask for the GUI to go back to SD?
     
  4. RunnerFL

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    You are remembering incorrectly. There is no storage device in a non-DVR so there is nowhere to store those graphics.
     
  5. RunnerFL

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    NY Hudson...
  7. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

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    Then why bother with your poll? That was my initial question. They won't go back so what's the point in having your poll that asks which people prefer?
     
  8. Mike Bertelson

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    Okay, discuss the topic and not each other.

    :backtotop

    Mike
     
  9. dennisj00

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    You didn't get your check this month??
     
  10. P Smith

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    Incorrect.

    Newest [not H20 for sure], at least I saw it by own eyes inside of HR23, HD receivers has a storage big enough for hold the pictures - 8 Gb NAND flash memory chip. Practically 1 GB of storage.
     
  11. RunnerFL

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    We've been over this before... Regardless of what you've found in an H2X, which you stated it was an HR2X btw, DirecTV has stated that the H2X's won't get posters because there is no storage space.
     
  12. P Smith

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    That's perhaps their temp solution or lack of resources to make it. But storage is there. Inside of H23 at least. Take it as new fact, don't stuck in a past - with same NAND flash in HR23.

    Any owner of H21 and up could go into Diagnostics during boot and check if the storage exist, no need to open a hood.

    Tell me what size of those pictures and we will make calculation. Real, not hear-say.
     
  13. dvdmth

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    You assume the 8GB storage is not used for any other purpose. Before you can know if there's enough room for the posters, you have to know not only how much space is needed, but also how much space is available.
     
  14. mkdtv21

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    Will the new HD GUI fix the missing channel logo's that some people had an issue with. I did everything I could to get all of my logo's back but nothing ever worked.
     
  15. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    What unit are you talking about, and what exact steps have you done?
     
  16. P Smith

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    Perhaps you know ? I can read it as a chip, but have you seen any Diags item what report total/free/taken space of the internal storage? Also pay attention to capital letters - the chip is 8 Gb[it].
    You didn't answer to my question about total size of the posters.
     
  17. mkdtv21

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    I have an R22 and I have done a red button reset twice within a half hour. I have done this multiple days and still I only have some logo's on my channel banner. Do you think when I get the new GUI this will resolve the issue?
     
  18. Athlon646464

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    Two things -

    1) You are better off doing a soft reboot than a hard one when your box is not locked up. By soft reboot I mean doing it from the menu.

    2) By doing two reboots inside 30 minutes you are flushing stuff out, and your box needs to start some of the download process over. You may actually be slowing the process down for yourself.

    Wait at least 48 hours and then do one soft reboot. Then wait another 48 hours to see if they appear. If not, then try another soft reboot.
     
  19. cypherx

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    Ok if there is 1GB (8gbit) of "storage" for extra data, plus a Numonyx 128MB flash for the actual OS, then I think they should still be able to do VOD, YouTube and other streaming stuff.

    Look at the Nintendo Wii for example. It comes with HALF of that storage, only 512mb flash. It can still stream Netflix live, straight off the web - no hard drive required. It can still browse YouTube, the Internet and you can even download some games to it before requiring an SD Card for additional storage. Games that are much more responsive than Game Lounge too.

    Then look at some of the blue ray players and media streamers out there. Samsung, Sony, Panasonic, Vizio, etc... They all make BD players that can do Amazon VOD, Pandora, Youtube, Netflix, some even have a TV Guide (usually from Rovi). These applications all have rich graphics too... but then again there's NO hard drive in these guys. What about stuff like Vudu and Roku and Google TV, Dlink Boxee box, etc.. ? I'm pretty sure these guys don't have hard drives in them either, but they all do rich graphics, streaming media, etc... Heck, I'm pretty sure the XBOX 360 with it's rich metro inspired dashboard UI still operates if you take the hard drive off.

    My point is, regular HD receivers should be able to handle poster art, VOD, YouTube and whatever other streaming DirecTV conjures up. I don't see it being a processor thing because heck my H24-200 pulls up menus and scrolls through the guide FASTER than my HR24 DVR. Maybe because it's not buffering or controlling access to rotating disk based storage?

    And so what it 1Gb of useable space isn't enough. Then harness the DECA cloud, find an active DVR on your network and use a small bit of space on there for caching some content. They could just advertise it as *certain features require whole home DVR service and an active Internet connection." GREAT! Upsell that $3 more a month WH-DVR service.

    It just would be real nice to pull VOD and stream it with the same results that you could via Netflix in other rooms. Plus YouTube and whatever else they have in the works. Heck, TVApps works on a non-DVR... We know non-DVR's can "see" the Internet via DECA. Even the iPad can stream live TV channels in real time in great quality. There's no hard drive in there. The DirecTV for iPad app is only around 12-13 MB.

    That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
     
  20. RunnerFL

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    Any owner of H21 and up could go into Diagnostics during boot and check if the storage exist, no need to open a hood.

    Tell me what size of those pictures and we will make calculation. Real, not hear-say.[/QUOTE]

    Again, it doesn't matter what may or may not be in the box. DirecTV has determined there is not enough storage in the device for posters, period.
     
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