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HD Platinum Free-No More

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by teddy, Jun 30, 2010.

  1. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    Reminds me of a nice bit of lyrical witticism from a song by Rush...

    "We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost"
  2. Wilf

    Wilf Legend

    Oct 15, 2008
    5 or 10 bucks, pales compared to the 40% or so of you pay for the sports channels. By my calculation, that amounts to about 30-35 bucks. Nobody seems to complain about that. For those that don't watch these channels, thats equivalent to a hefty tax.

  3. jkane

    jkane Icon

    Oct 12, 2007
    The bottom line ... it's all WAY TOO CONFUSING! Nickle and dime charges are wrong. My bill went up by $2 after HD became free. That was borderline evil!

    BTW: I actually do get free lunch every day. You can say it's part of my salary, but when I was a contracter here, it really was completely free without strings attached. :)

    Last time I bought tires, the buy 3 get on free was a deal. They did not jack up the prices for the sale. That is not to say that they normally sell those tires for too much. But a sale is not alwasy tied to a price increase. That is ... unless it's Dish Network!

    I have been a customer since 1995. They have always been this way. However ... they still tend to be cheaper than DirectTV and Cable. So we live with their tactics and complain about how it gets implemented.
  4. GrumpyBear

    GrumpyBear Hall Of Fame

    Feb 1, 2006
    I agree. For me, and this is just me. This change was just, eaiser to handle then most. Knowing that the HD+Platinum deal, was a loophole for existing users, and packages like that don't last forever, I was more than relieved, when Dish didn't seperate HD and Platinum, they didn't go back to the old format of $10 each.

    For the 1st time in a LONGTIME, with Dish, I feel rewarded. By getting HD+Platinum, through the loophole, last year, I saved $10 from Sept-June.
    Was grandfathered into HD free for Life, just by having HD and Platinum on my account(and saving $10 at the sametime), so I didn't have to sign up for autopay, didn't have to recommit for 2yrs, didn't have to pay a onetime fee, didn't have to play CSR roulette, for once something happened automaticly.

    Did my overall bill go up by $2? Yes. Was that a lot less then what I was expecting once Dish ended the promo and seperated HD and Platinum. Yes.
    Did Dish do a great job of adding enough good programming to entice me to Keep Platinum? Darn them, they Did.
  5. jkane

    jkane Icon

    Oct 12, 2007
    OK ... I went online and tried to figure out what the difference is betwene HD Platinum and HD for life! I was paying $10 for "somethign". I clikced the HD free for life offer, and now it is offereing the HD PLatinum package for $10. But, nowhere can I find what is in it. Did I remove some programming for signing up for the HD for life package?

    I know a few months ago I had some HD removed since it did not seem like I was wathcing it enough.

    Why can't the web site just have a chart of each package lined up against each other?
  6. GrumpyBear

    GrumpyBear Hall Of Fame

    Feb 1, 2006
    Platinum is a addon package. In the Past you Paid $10 for HD access and $10 for the Platinum addon. Some people found a way to get a new sub package and get HD Access and the Platinum package addon for just $10.
    HD for Life means no more paying the $10 for HD access to the channels. Platinum is still its own addon package, that you add to your AT120, AT200, AT250. Platinum is a package just like HBO, Showtime, Starz, Multisports, and the rest, its a addon to your base package.
  7. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
  8. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
    HD Free for Life is HD versions of whatever's available in your package, AT120/120+/200 etc.

    HD Platinum is an HD-only package above and beyond that.

    It's really not that tough.
  9. jkane

    jkane Icon

    Oct 12, 2007
    Ah! I didn't study the bottom banner hard enough. Thought it was another advertisement. I wasn't sure if the red "buttons" next to the offereings or "green/blue" buttons were the HD Platinum, or just the differeneces between the packages. It made sense that they were the differneces, but the top banner made me wonder where the Platinum HD offering explaination was at.

    Platinum is the 16 HD channels I cancelled a few months ago. Although there is a show every now and then on one of those channels, it wasn't often enough to justify another $10 to keep them. That is good. Then my bill should now go down by $8 effectively with the addition of "free HD". That is a good thing!
  10. teddy

    teddy Mentor

    Jun 9, 2006
    When Dish changes it's pricing structure, the consumer should be allowed to change his/her subscriptions without penalty. That just seems a principle of fairness, whether my bill goes up, down or doesn't change. If they are going to change our agreement, I should be able to have a say in it.

    I am not holding a grudge here or trying to push any hidden agenda.
    Dish can change it's prices anytime it wishes, within the law and it's contractual arrangements. That is their right. Although I don't like it when prices go up, it is their right. If I don't like it I can go else where.

    Still, I should be able to change my choices, without penalty, when they change how they charge me for my choices.
  11. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    By "a few months ago" I hope you mean before last August? Last August Platinum HD was offered free as part of a promotion to new customers. Existing customers could cancel their HD service (Bronze/Silver/Gold and Platinum if they subscribed) and immediately add the new "HD & Platinum HD" getting all the channels for $10. These customers (the new ones since last August and existing customers who adjusted their plans) were automatically put into "HD Free for Life" on June 3rd.

    If you canceled Platinum since last August you could have canceled all HD then readded "HD & Platinum HD" and paid $10 instead of $20 for the same HD.

    DISH did not automatically convert those paying $20 for their HD over to HD & Platinum HD in August nor did they automatically convert those still paying $20 for their HD over to HD Free. Those people are only finding out now that they can reduce their bill by $10 - but they need to make the commitment.

    Personally I wish that DISH would have converted all the $20 HD people over to HD Free like they did with the HD & Platinum HD customers. These people "overpaid" from August through May (9 months) which is about the same as the $99 fee DISH is currently charging to get HD Free without commitment. Then again - giving money away without people asking for it can ruin a business.

    Making the pre-August 2009 $10 per month subscribers make a commitment doesn't bother me as much as making the $20 per month subscribers make a commitment to get their bill lowered.
  12. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    There is something to be said about your agreement with them. At the time you signed up Platinum HD was included "free". You agreed to pay $10 per month for all of the HD channels you received. This year DISH has added 23 HD channels plus 7 PPVs. More channels than they offered when you agreed to pay $10 for HD. And although they have changed the way they itemize what you are paying for on the bill, you were still paying $10 for HD (including any of the 23 HD channels included at your programming level).

    The price increase on June 3rd was on the SD channel packages - not HD. The restructuring of receiver fees in February primarily hit SD customers (charging $7 instead of $5 for a "Solo" SD receiver - raising SD receiver prices to match HD receiver pricing). While the February changes also hit multiple HD receiver customers it hit multiple SD receiver customers just as hard. DISH doesn't charge for dropping receivers - no penalty there.

    One can sometimes get a CSR to waive the $5 fee but I don't see it as a big deal. Paying $5 once so you don't have to keep paying $10 isn't the worse thing in life.
  13. Paul Secic

    Paul Secic Hall Of Fame

    Dec 16, 2003
    Don't your other bills go up yearly? Come on!
  14. jkane

    jkane Icon

    Oct 12, 2007
    I was just a few months ago, not August. I deleted it when they increased the HD stuff from $10 to $20. I did not get automatically added to Free HD which is what made me look at it. When my bill went up $2, I checked, and that's when I saw the offer for Free HD. I had to commit to another 2 years. I have had them long enough now that I can live with that instead of a $99 fee!

    I don't think they are charging me a $5 reduction fee. I have some grandfathered thing on my account that prevents that. I don't know exactly why, but it's there listed in my programming list! Looks like it expires soon though. Got a message saying if I was not happy that now is the time to remove programming before it expires.
  15. Borgie

    Borgie AllStar

    Dec 30, 2006
    so when are they going to start moving the "free" HD channels into the platinum? The already did it with Palladia and HD Theater
  16. coldsteel

    coldsteel Hall Of Fame

    Mar 29, 2007
    Because all but one HD-only channel is moved to Platinum. With the curious exception of HDNet, the HD 120/200/250 only has HD versions of SD channels in the Top 120/200/250.
  17. BattleZone

    BattleZone Hall Of Fame

    Nov 13, 2007
    That's exactly the point: the normal price has enough margin built in already that they can afford to give you that 4th tire "free" (when you buy 3 tires at the normal, inflated [no pun intended] price). You are paying for that "free" tire; don't fool yoursef. :)
  18. audiomaster

    audiomaster DBSTalk Club Member

    Jun 24, 2004
    South Carolina
    And when they say "But wait! Order now and we will include a second thingy for free and you only pay the cost of shipping and handling" It means the cheap Chinese-made thingy costs them less than even the shipping to make!

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