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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Rob37, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. compnurd

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    Yeh except as explained above and on here about 4500 times.. It doesnt work that way. Comcast the largest TV Company still has plenty of SD Channels
     
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  2. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    And that's fine for Comcast as a business entity but Comcast as an MVPD has perhaps never been what anyone would wish for as a first choice (except for their scofflaw captive sports markets like Philiadelphia).
     
  3. Rob37

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    OKAY MAN :D
     
  4. Delroy E Walleye

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    I might even be "contented" if the SD channels we still have were even full SD quality.

    D*'s SD is about some of the worst-quality SD there is!

    (At the very least SD in the 21st century should be 720x480 - DVD PQ - not sub-VHS res.)
     
  5. ejbvt

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    They have SD because they can. You'd be shocked at the number of people who still can't tell if it's SD or HD.
     
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  6. harsh

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    Wait until your local broadcasters implement NextGen TV. Having the equivalent of eight or more SD channels on a single channel won't be all that unusual.
     
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  7. harsh

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    I don't think that's generally a problem on DIRECTV because the difference is so great between 1080i and 240i. With some of the other MVPDs (especially those that routinely engage in converting 1080i to 720p), the differences are much less striking.
     
  8. P Smith

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    actually 480i
     
  9. harsh

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    Last I saw, it wasn't full SD resolution (640x480) and it doesn't sound like that has changed.
     
  10. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    The blind leading the blind. :)
     
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  11. P Smith

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    you mean 384x480 or less ?
     
  12. kevinwmsn

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    SDLite? I remember when we first got HD channels when the satellites at 99 and 103 were turned on, they looked better than my HDTivo MPEG2. I wish the picture was that good again. I also remember when OTA didn't have 4 or 5 subchannels, OTA looked great. I am hoping with ATSC3.0 we could get 1080p HD Channels. I wish they would free up Ku bandwidth so they can put the most popular national and some LiL on KU in prime rain fade areas.
     
  13. harsh

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    I mean something significantly less than 480i. The damage that is done appears beyond simple bandwidth starvation.
     
  14. harsh

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    For the next few years, those channels that are currently 1080i on their DTV broadcasts are deinterlacing a 1080i SDR source for their NextGen TV broadcasts (since HEVC doesn't support interlacing). It isn't 1080p but it should be a little better than 1080i (except on completely static images where it should be identical). The 720p channels are still sending 720p.

    We likely won't really know what NextGen TV can do for broadcast content until DTV goes away and the stations no longer have to share channels. I expect that many who prize numbers above all else will be disappointed.
     
  15. James Long

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    I remember analog. For some reason my memories of analog were of a decent picture. I can't believe I actually enjoyed watching so few pixels!

    I remember projecting DVDs on large screens without complaining about the pixel count. But that was before HD and before I was told the picture I thought was good wasn't good. :)

    I don't expect 1080p broadcast. Do we even have 1080p channels other than PPVs? It simply isn't the direction the industry went - regardless of available bandwidth and compression.

    I would not expect to see that. The quality of the "HD" would need to be reduced to cover all of the "most popular" channels and programmers not included would object to being treated like second class channels.

    There is the opportunity to vastly improve the quality of SD and make 101 a viable location high quality SD channels. Something better than what DIRECTV has done with SD - especially their early days pre-MPEG2 format that trigger people to believe SD is really horrible.
     
  16. P Smith

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    … I remember B/W TV channels... and TV without remote … :p
     
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    I was the remote :cool:, darn 7 channels
     
  18. P Smith

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    .. punching stack of cards for IBM-360 with 8 MB RAM under MVT OS...
     
  19. P Smith

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    you know what I did after I tired rotate the channel's knob ?
    I did open TV, and rearrange segments inside of the "barrel", it become has nice consecutive lineup after the "fix" :) Channel by channel...
     
  20. inkahauts

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    Here’s part of the problem...

    First...

    They can’t get rid of mpeg2 until a certain date because they signed some contracts years ago for off shoe drilling platforms and other things that require them to continue to provide this service. That is coming to an end in the next year or so I believe then they can start shutting down duplicates. Till then they are stuck... it’s a technology thing of who can receive mpeg2 vs mpeg4.

    They are also by law required to broadcast a certain number of channels that are considered public interest. They have to be able to be seen by the lowest common equipment and some other things. (Location of source of broadcast like 101 vs 99 etc)

    DIRECTV has no desire to broadcast those channels twice, like nasa and I have a feeling some of the cspan channels. It’s not as simple as just do it. I have a feeling those channels will be Hi Definition as soon as mpeg 2 goes away and consolidation and rearranging of what channels come from what locations. But they aren’t able to make that happen yet.


    With that said they have been making steadyish progress on getting rid of mpeg2... and rearranging some channels off 97 and 119. That’s a start for the overall bigger picture for sure.
     
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