HDMI Control / CEC with 4K Genie Mini and Samsung TVs

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by byrd89, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. byrd89

    byrd89 New Member

    Feb 23, 2020
    Just got two Samsung Q7DR TVs (2019 model) from Costco and am having difficulty setting up CEC / HDMI Control / Anynet+ with 4K Genie Minis. Clients are the C64K-700, client version is 0x12c5, Genie is the HR54/500 version 0x12e5. Samsung software version is 1351. On the 4K Genie Mini, HDMI Control is on in Settings > Display > Video. On the Samsung TVs, Anynet+ (HDMI-CEC) is “green” in Settings > General > External Device Manager. Cables are verified to be compatible with CEC by using them with other devices on the Samsung TVs. The 4K Genie Mini is connected directly to the TV, not through a receiver.

    A PlayStation 3 and a Blu-ray player are immediately recognized by the Samsung TVs when plugged into any of the HDMI ports. The TV will show the name of the connected device and pass commands through to the device from the Samsung remote.

    When the 4K Genie Mini is connected to the TV, a wheel spins on the Samsung screen with the message “Detecting device…” Eventually, an HDMI icon with the word “Unknown” shows up along with the message “Device is not detected”, prompting for manual setup. In manual setup, “DirecTV Digital” is chosen (not U-verse). At the end of manual setup, a “DirecTV Authentication“ screen comes up, requiring a selection of “Genie Box 1” or “Genie Mini / Other Box”. I have tried both without success. I have tried this on all of the HDMI ports on the Samsung TVs. At the end of the process, sometimes I get a message from the 4K Genie Mini that it is completing RF remote setup, and I’m prompted to hold mute and enter on the DTV remote. No idea why this happens on some occasions and not on others.

    The event logs on the Samsung at Settings > Support > About This TV show multiple entries with “CEC Command,Source enabled”.

    5+ minute power disconnects (on both devices), 4K Genie Mini red button resets, and using Settings > General > Reset on the Samsung TVs (without a restore from the Samsung account) do not fix the issue. Without success, I’ve also tried the steps at this link (although they must be slightly varied because of the later Samsung model being used): My Fix for Genie Minis & Samsung 4K TV - Black screen, resets, resolution changes | AT&T Community Forums.

    I had a 4K Genie Mini that had never been used, and I went through the swap / replace process with the Genie to try it out. It was immediately recognized by the Samsung TV, and commands were passed from the Samsung TV remote to the DirecTV. After power cycling the 4K Genie Mini, it no longer worked and I was back where I started.

    Samsung Support (800-SAMSUNG) suggests that the 4K Genie Mini is at fault, and I hung up with DirecTV support after switching in the new 4K Genie Mini, but before I power cycled it. My general feel was that DirecTV support had no idea what was going on.

    The setup works fine with a 2016 KS9000 and a 4K Genie Mini.

    Any thoughts or experience on getting this resolved? Thanks.
  2. compnurd

    compnurd Hall Of Fame

    Apr 23, 2007
    Evans City PA
    CEC can be very finicky Will probably be fixed by a firmware update on either the TV or the Mini at some point and then broken by another shortly after
  3. WestDC

    WestDC Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Feb 9, 2008
    The problem you are faced with -The CEC has No Standard because it is every chooses as MFG based - as your TV is a 2019 Model -the C61K has been around for a lot longer -therefore - AT&T will not keep up with every MFG of every TV
  4. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    I have six Samsung 4K sets. They all have that problem. One of those sets is a QLED Q90R. None of them will recognize my 44 (haven't tried everyone of them but I'm pretty sure they'll all do the same thing). All of them will recognize everything else I put on them. I don't know who to blame and from your post it seems nobody does. But this doesn't matter to me, I don't use the TV sets' remotes very much and certainly don't need them to play my 44. Why your KS9000 works properly...I have no idea. I do have a KS8000 but the 44 has never been hooked up to it.

  5. dbronstein

    dbronstein Hall Of Fame

    Oct 21, 2002
    I just got a new Samsung TV and when I first connected the genie mini, it recognized it as a Dish receiver. I disconnected it and reconnected it later and then it picked it up as a Directv box.
  6. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    I've tried at least 3 Samsung sets and none of them will pick up my 44. I have to continuously fight with the TV set because it keeps trying to hook up with the 44...only to fail.

  7. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    Why are you concerned about using CEC for the DIRECTV box in the first place? If you set it to work red and use the original remote and program the remote to work the tv you’ll never no the difference and use a remote that has all the right buttons... so I am curious why CEC is important on this one.

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