Hearst Television and Dish Dispute/Negotiations

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  1. Blowgun

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    Get the single or dual OTA tuner and go back to recording them.
     
  2. Mark Holtz

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    OK, this is fun.... the two Hearst stations in Sacramento (KCRA/KQCA) are in the dispute....

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    Waitasecond.... we went through this last January with DirecTV.
     
  3. Blowgun

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    That's a good reason why it doesn't always pan out to abandoned one service for another during a contract dispute.
     
  4. inkahauts

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    More like ever...
     
  5. DoyleS

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    Yesterday I was trying a work around to removal of Sacramento NBC station KCRA but having trouble with my 4 tuner Tablo which has not been used in 6 months. Out of desperation I ordered the new 2 channel OTA Dongle for $69, knowing full well that it will probably arrive after the dispute is over. So today I again tackled the Tablo and did a factory reset. Low and behold the system came up again and my one month of Guide data for $5 downloaded. Tablo DVR is set for Chicago Justice and Shades of Blue tonight. Life is good again.
     
  6. scooper

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    OTA DVR's can be a good backup. I have a Dish one and a ChannelMaster 7500 - the Channelmaster gets Rovi TV Guide info over the internet.
     
  7. James Long

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    BTW: I recommend calling DISH to complain about the lost channels. Often their response has been to send out the dongle for free if not at reduced price. Past performance does not guarantee future success.
     
  8. Eva

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    Saw a KCRA booth at an event and someone there said blah blah blah join us blah. I asked why you're off Dish network, they said use OTA. I responded why should I have to go through the trouble to do that. The person gave some corporate spew and asked me to move on. I said as I walked away Hearst were greedy bastards.
     
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  9. jsk

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    I have the flex pack without locals and I just called Dish to complain about the lack of guide data for WBAL (Baltimore) and WGAL (Lancaster, PA). They had me rescan the channel and dowload the program guide and I have the guide for both channels back. Did the dispute get resolved or did they actually do something?
     
  10. jsk

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    I just noticed this posted a little while ago. There were whole bunch of other similar changes for other markets. Should I read that to mean Dish removed the mappings and added the EPG data? Get those OTA dongles/modules and dust off the rabbit ears! It looks like this might last a little while:

    15896 LOCAL added to 61.5° 25s3 (NJ/PA/MD/DE) (OTA EPG Data) No EPG - OTA Mapping (-01)
    15905 LOCAL added to 61.5° 30s52 (MD/PA) (OTA EPG Data) No EPG - OTA Mapping (-01)
    5172 LOCAL (8 HD Local) 61.5° 30s52 (MD/PA) HD Harrisburg, PA market Hidden - OTA Mapping Removed (8-01)
    8732 LOCAL (11 Local) 110° 23s5 (East Virginia) SD Baltimore, MD market Hidden - OTA Mapping Removed (11-01)

    I'll take credit for getting the EPG data back since I was on the phone with tech support when it happened ;)
     
  11. tampa8

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    DISH added the guide data as they did for the Tribune dispute when it looked like that one would be awhile.
     
  12. Mark Holtz

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    From KCRA:

    Hearst Television launches "shot clock" on DISH negotiations
    (Updated: 3:57 PM PDT Mar 18, 2017)
    FULL ARTICLE HERE
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  13. jsk

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    Dish claims that Hearst is balking at the same retrans deal that DirecTV got. I wonder if their flex pack that makes locals optional is the hangup in the negotiations. I think locals should be optional with all packages. If you get them free OTA, why pay for them to be piped into your house? I remember hearing that cable & sat companies are loosing money by carrying locals, but they need to carry them for those who can't receive them OTA. If they started making locals optional and giving customers recommendations on antennas (maybe partner with TV Fool), and installing and selling antennas, they could open up a new revenue stream for themselves while saving money in the rising retrans costs. Also, TV station owners shouldn't be able to dictate that locals should be required for any TV package, if they elect to go with retrans consent. If they elect to go with must carry, they should be included with all packages; this protects PBS and smaller stations that may not be able to get any retrans money.
     
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  14. dpeters11

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    Though the other thing is the AT&T deal was for UVerse and DirecTV. If the numbers are correct, overall AT&T has more subscribers, so they likely would get a lower rate per subscriber than Dish would. Using their own numbers, we're talking 46 million compared to 14 million. Obviously most of those aren't in Hearst markets.
     
  15. inkahauts

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    Where did you hear they have 46 million. I thought it was in the mid 20s range.
     
  16. dpeters11

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    I was going by this, but didn't notice the fine print that it included SKY Mexico. So there's a deduction there, but think that's around 7 million. Doesn't say that it includes all of the Latin America market.
    https://www.att.com/Common/about_us/pdf/att_btn.pdf
     
  17. DoyleS

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    At least Dish has the program guide on for the OTA channels here in Sac. Makes it a lot easier to schedule recordings. Hopper Dongle seems to be working fine and Dish gave me a nice contribution for the missing channels. At this point, I can wait it out. Pretty much focused on March Madness and Warriors Basketball so it is nice to DVR with OTA the regular programming I was missing.
     

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