Help me select a new DVR. I hate the "autoplay" of the Genie HR54

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  1. Jul 3, 2019 #1 of 121
    nowandthen

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    I gave up 2 HR22's for a Genie and Genie Mini. Big mistake!

    I like the Genie in that it can record at least 2 programs (maybe more 3?) while simultaneously watching live TV on 2 channels (double play). I no longer have conflicts with just 2 tuners in an HR22. I love this!

    But after getting the Genie, I discovered an unacceptable software issue. If you have several programs recorded within a group, say Survivor, and you select an episode to watch, then, for whatever reason, are not around at the end of the episode (typically meaning I fell asleep), the Genie, after about 5 seconds of idle, and another 5 second countdown, assumes you are lazy and can't make the effort to push a button on the remote, so it will play the next recorded episode. And after that, it will play the next episode. This is idiotic and assumes the customer is lazy (which arguably Americans are, ha ha, true but sad). AT&T, stop kidding yourself, you need not cater to millenials. They are not your customer. Us old people are. Most millenials are streaming not watching programs on a DVR.

    So, I want a DVR that behaves like the HR22 did. If I'm playing a recording, and it ends without any user input, then it times out and returns to live TV. Youtube has a setting to disable autoplay. In another thread I posted, someone replied that; paraphrasing, yes it sucks but we just have to deal with it.

    I am not holding my breath that AT&T will hear us, so...

    please help me out. Which HRxx's are still available for order and does not have "autoplay". I'd like to get the most recent incarnation of an HR. My HR22's were really old and not being installed anymore (according to my installer).

    Please recommend any model without "autoplay".

    I was a big fan of Tivo, but that went away a long time ago. I understand AT&T (I won't call then DTV anymore as they have destroyed that entity) has a DVR with Tivo software. I will do any DVR that does not have what I call autoplay.

    Sorry for the rant.
     
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  2. Jul 3, 2019 #2 of 121
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    The only way to get around what you have is to go backwards to an HR24 which is much slower and only has 2 tuners.
    Do you have an old RC6x model remote ? If yes, try using the stop button on it or the exit button. It should work the same as it did on your old receivers.
    See if it will cure your problem.
     
  3. Jul 3, 2019 #3 of 121
    NR4P

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    IIRC the autoplay feature started before AT&T took over. It wasn't liked too much then and many called out DTV from copying Netflix with that feature.

    Unfortunately we have it with no way to disable it.
     
  4. Jul 4, 2019 #4 of 121
    mfmathis

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    I have an HR44, and it has the same issue with auto-play. I absolutely despise it and the new GUI. The only way around it is an HR24, plus with the HR24 you get the good old GUI which is so much quicker and less button presses to accomplish the same task on a 44. I've just about had it with DTV since ATT took the reins.

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  5. Jul 4, 2019 #5 of 121
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    I have an HR54, C61K and an HR24 in the TV room. I almost always use the HR24 to watch recorded material. The only exception is 4K recordings of course. The HR24 speed is not so good but it outweighs having to deal with the terrible GUI on the others.

    If I was the OP I would add an HR24 and use it for playback.
     
  6. Jul 4, 2019 #6 of 121
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    I'd much rather use a 24 for viewing too. Nothing wrong with my 44 except for the GUI. Why the developers had to change the GUI that much is beyond me. My 44 is simply the best DVR I've ever used but that GUI ruins the experience. And D* has the nerve to call the Genies an "upgrade". Take that GUI away and let the Genie's revert to a GUI that is identical to the 24's GUI and the Genies would be damn near perfect. I think.

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  7. Jul 4, 2019 #7 of 121
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    I too had a HR24. I recently finally got sick of it and upgraded to the HR54. The auto play is a bit of an annoyance, but nothing of the level OP is implying :D. I'd say taking 30 seconds to respond to a button press on the HR24 was a much bigger annoyance.

    Rich has solved that problem by putting an SSD into it, so you can go that route to "speed it up" if the auto-play annoys you that much, but you'd lose 3 tuners.

    Re: falling back to an HR24, since you just activated a HR54, remember, you are under a 1 yr (or possibly 2 yr) contract, so you're unlikely to get a free HR24. You'd have to buy one at full MSRP since people have been reporting that AT&T doesn't activate eBay boxes anymore. Supposedly they will if its a NIB with a NIB access card, but some people have said they weren't even able to activate those. YMMV.

    You'd have to buy one direct from DirecTV or an authorized dealer like Solid Signal. $200.

    Plus you'll lose the ability to record 4K.
     
  8. Jul 4, 2019 #8 of 121
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    If you are going to just use it for playback wouldn't an H24 be much better. My son's is much faster than my HR24 ?
     
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    Does your son have the original HDD in that 24?

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    My HR24 does have the original drive in it.
    My son's H24 has no HDD and it responds so much faster. His channel changes are instant.
     
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    I'd like to see a comparison of those two devices with a new HDD in or on the HR24. That would prove a point, perhaps.

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  12. Jul 6, 2019 #12 of 121
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    Yes it would prove that they are probably just as fast, especially if you put in an SSD drive. It really does not matter anyway. I like having all DVR's. I use some for backups of critical series in case the HD in one bites the dust. Also I am so spoiled now that I just cannot watch a show if I have to sit through the commercials.
     
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    The HR24 will playback material recorded on the HR54? But not have the autoplay issue when played through the HR24?
     
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    H24 vs. HR24. Can the H24 play back material from the HR54? And not have the autoplay issue? If yes to this and my previous post, seems an H24 is all I would need. No need to add another DVR. Right? Thanks.
     
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    Slow response to button presses is what made me upgrade. So an HR24 has the same slow response as the HR22?

    Didn't know we could put our own drive into it, or can/should that only be done to an owned DVR?

    They told me I was under a new 1 year contract. $120, with that going done $10 each month. $120 doesn't bother me, that's about what I pay per month anyway, so it's not an incentive for me not to change or go elsewhere. But researching other options doesn't look that appealing and they are unknown to me.

    I don't need 4K. Regular HD looks good enough to me. Maybe when I get a really giant tv. 120" or more. :)
     
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  16. Jul 6, 2019 #16 of 121
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    Yup. My HR24 literally took 30+ seconds to respond to a button press intermittently.

    You might want to try out Rich's thing, he's been happy with the results. He indicates when you put in a BRAND NEW drive, it speeds things up considerably, especially if you use an SSD. For me, I didn't want to invest the money/effort into a 10 yr+ old box, but auto play doesn't bug me though ;).

    Unless you watch sports, there isn't really any 4K content on DirecTV anyways, so I wouldn't really factor that into your decision.
     
  17. Jul 6, 2019 #17 of 121
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    I do not have an HR54 but, the H24 uses the same software as the HR24 and I see no reason for it not to work the same when connected to the HR54.
     
  18. Jul 6, 2019 #18 of 121
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    I used to think having an all in one server/gateway would be cool but what happens when the whole thing breaks and you can’t watch TV or surf the web? Also after seeing the Altice One problems on Youtube that doesn’t look good. I also don’t think having the wireless video bridge built into the HS-17 since they say you can’t have your gateway next to it due to wireless interference.
     
  19. Jul 6, 2019 #19 of 121
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    With an HR54 and an H24 if the 54 breaks the 24 has it's own tuner and still watch live TV.
     
  20. Jul 6, 2019 #20 of 121
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    The HR-54 has the power inserter built in and if you don’t have an external power inserter hooked up to the HR-54 and the HR-54 breaks what about powering the dish?
     

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