Help me select a new DVR. I hate the "autoplay" of the Genie HR54

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  1. Jul 6, 2019 #21 of 121
    jimmie57

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    That would be a problem and I have read where many installers are installing the Power Inserter with the 54. That should cost less than $25 to make that happen.
     
  2. Jul 6, 2019 #22 of 121
    Rich

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    A new HDD will speed any HR up. I haven't had a non-DVR receiver since...I joined D* in 2002 and bought a bunch of receivers that I hooked up to my VCRs. Then I found the DVRs. Never had a chance to compare speeds, threw all the receivers out as I bought DVRs. Back then I had no interest in speed. Now a comparison would interest me.

    Yeah, I get the spoiled thing. Me too. Getting to the point where using a remote annoys me.

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    Far as I can tell, the speed problems are related to the HDDs, not the 24s themselves. You can put an external drive on any D* DVR without worrying about the terms of service. If you're interested we can lead you thru the process.

    The 22s were one of the worst DVRs that D* made. The 24s are really good DVRs and are much more reliable and much faster than a 22. The problems folks see that are related to speed are usually caused by the internal HDDs. Think of how old that 22 you have/had is. It probably has the original HDD in it. That's the problem. Old HDDs, overloaded HDDs.

    You have to be thinking about dumping that 22 and getting a 24 or a Genie. If you get a 24 as a replacement it shouldn't cost you anything. Just tell them the 22 is dead, they know the 22s are junk and you'll get a 24. Won't be a new 24, you get a refurbished model. That will have an older HDD in it and you will have speed problems soon after you activate it. All D* does when they refurbish a DVR is wipe out all the content on it and reset everything. It might seem quick at first but it's gonna slow down.

    You can get a Genie, they're great DVRs. Might have to put out a lot of money for it. The alternative is to get a 24 and put an external drive on it. You can get a new, large HDD and an external device for less than a hundred bucks. That should give you a couple years of good service. Point is, the 24s and their problems are fixable. It's easy. And the GUI on the 24s is much easier to use, the Genies have a dreadful GUI, I think. I've had a Genie for years and I avoid using it because of the GUI.

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  4. Jul 6, 2019 #24 of 121
    Rich

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    Yeah, Optimum keeps trying to get me interested in that thing. Talk about putting all the eggs in one basket, huh? I have no interest in that.

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  5. Jul 6, 2019 #25 of 121
    Delroy E Walleye

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    I think TS already has genie and mini (having gotten rid of the 22s). Just doesn't like autoplay.

    Like jimmie57, I was also going to suggest maybe an H reciever.
     
  6. Jul 7, 2019 #26 of 121
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    I don’t remember ever seeing my HR24 auto play the next show but then again I am a bit impatient and typically stop a show the minute the end credits start.
    As for speed I agree With Rich, my HR24 without a drive up grade changes channels in a couple of seconds. I think some owners have some seriously defective drives in their units .
     
  7. Jul 7, 2019 #27 of 121
    nowandthen

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    I did already get rid of my HR22's. If only I had known. :( Love the HR54 for it's 5 tuners, the GUI is bad but I can deal with it. Hate autoplay so much that I have to find some other solution. I hate it so much I will pay whatever the fee is to send it back and get a pair of HR24s. Or pay the early termination fee and go elsewhere. Cable + a Tivo? I love Tivo, but I think they still have 30 minute buffers. (Love the DTV 90 minute buffers.) I Don't know much about DISH.

    Rich, do you have a thread on updating the HDD or using an external? I need to understand the implications and how-to on replacing the internal drive.

    I'm still not clear on the H24 integration with a HR54. If I get a H24 or HR24, can I use that to control and playback content from the HR54, therefore avoiding autoplay? I've never had receivers "talk" to each other, my first experience is with the Genie and Genie mini, but the Genie and mini are specifically designed for that purpose.
     
  8. Jul 7, 2019 #28 of 121
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    Edit: Removed reference to H25.
    An H24 or HR24 will work just like a client / mini except it has it's own tuner (s) that can be used if you want to.
    To me this seems like the easiest and cheapest route to go before ditching everything.
    An H24 { Edit: Removed H25 ) should cost $99. The HR will cost you $199.
    Either will possibly extend your contract. I would call them and ask them about the pricing and the contract before doing anything.
     
  9. Jul 7, 2019 #29 of 121
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    Yeah, went back and read the OP. My bad.

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  10. Jul 7, 2019 #30 of 121
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    There are several threads about using an external but they are so long you might not want to go there. You can replace the internal drives on 24s but I'm not sure how the new terms we now have to abide by deal with that. That's why I suggested an external drive. It's much easier to put an external drive on a 24 than it is to put one internally. But that's up to you.

    Implications? Not much to worry about. An external drive works just like an internal drive. All you have to do is purchase an external device and a new drive. We can help you with those purchases if you're interested. Hooking the new drive up is easy. We can help with that too. What you will end up with is a 24 that works really well. The difference between a 24 and a 22 is...well, you have to see it to believe it. Yes, you can access the content on a 54 from a 24. That's nothing to worry about. But you're worried about auto-play and that's on every HR as far as I know. That's not gonna change, you're gonna have to learn to deal with it. I know it can be a PITA but it is what it is. Some like it, some don't.

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  11. Jul 7, 2019 #31 of 121
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    I would keep the HR54 and mini's because the autoplay isn't going to change regardless of device at this point. The HR54 is a beast and should be trouble free for years to come.
     
  12. Jul 7, 2019 #32 of 121
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    In addition to hard drives slowing the HR24 down, if you live in a marginal signal area, the cpu dealing with error correction seems to bog down the HR24 and previous models much more than the HR54.

    Personally I like the current HR54 GUI except for the damn autoplay... especially when it starts searching and downloading on demand content after the recorded programs have been viewed... but then I’m an old school control freak like it seems many here are :) I think autoplay is a nice feature sometimes, but not always.

    If I recall correctly, the HR24 is always recording the current channel, so if you are late for a show you have the opportunity to rewind back aways. The HR54 doesn’t.
     
  13. Jul 7, 2019 #33 of 121
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    That is a bit of a PITA too. Makes me wonder why they couldn't just mirror the 24's GUI. Been wondering that since I got the 44.

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  14. Jul 7, 2019 #34 of 121
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    I don't believe autoplay as being discussed here even exists on any H2x or HR2x. I think it's a genie-only feature.

    (Folder play, on the other hand, is a voluntary feature that works on all H/HRs. And I'll add is more reliable on the H than the HR2x - where it likes to crap out within a couple hours.)

    Someone please correct me if this has changed. I can't recall ever having another episode play on its own without having first pressed play on the folder on a non-genie.

    As far as I know H/HR2x don't even have season | episode data.
     
  15. Jul 7, 2019 #35 of 121
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    I also don’t remember my HR24 doing auto play.
     
  16. Jul 7, 2019 #36 of 121
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    It will autoplay everything in the folder of a recorded show if you select the folder and press play. Otherwise not. BTW, every DVR I've used did this, as far back as I can remember.
     
  17. Jul 7, 2019 #37 of 121
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    I just tried this on my HR24. I cheated by using the FF and the 30 Skip buttons to quickly zip thru each episode of this season of Game of Thrones (6 of them).
    I started by pressing the Play button on the remote while the folder was highlighted. Note: Do not press Select and open the folder !
    There is no Season or Episode information on the Hr24.
    It played the first one I recorded first and each of the others in the order they were recorded.
     
  18. Jul 8, 2019 #38 of 121
    dreadlk

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    Yeah I know it will play a selected folder and that’s exactly what I would want. I use that feature to leave on a few hours of certain cartoons for my youngest.

    I think the op is referring to an open folder and one particular episode is selected to be played. I have never seen it play the rest of the episodes when using this method with the HR24.
     
  19. Jul 8, 2019 #39 of 121
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    Yeah the OP was talking about the "enhanced" HR54 (or genie) autoplay feature, where another member mentioned that previous HRs also autoplayed a folder. Various manuals over the years called this autoplay, so semantics depends on your POV. The genies, like the HR54, added the autoplay after completing a show in the folder regardless of how you got there and on demand lookup for those that have season and episode metadata.

    My HR54 will only do its so called autoplay when playing a recording in a folder. I've not seen it auto play a stand alone recording... not that I'm paying that much attention.
     
  20. Jul 8, 2019 #40 of 121
    b4pjoe

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    On my C61K if I play one episode in a folder (that is on the HR54) it will then autoplay the other episodes inside that folder. If I play a single episode that have no other episodes on the DVR but that has subsequent episodes in OnDemand it will download and autoplay the next one.
     

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