Help me select a new DVR. I hate the "autoplay" of the Genie HR54

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  1. Rich

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    Just found this on eBay. Thermaltake BlacX 2.5”3.5” USB 2.0 External Hard Drive Enclosure Docking Station 841163027615 | eBay In the reviews one customer states it works well with D* DVRs. Don't be afraid of used docks. There is not much that can go wrong with them. Only problem with this dock that I can see is I don't see the eSATA to SATA cable on the offering. The purchaser might have to buy one. New docks come with that cable. Offering does not say anything about the cable. Easy to buy.

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    I don't see a need for an owned 24 if you are gonna put an SSD on it. I don't think putting an SSD internally is a good idea unless you have a very good way of mounting it. Easier to do it externally. All my HRs are owned and I don't mount the SSDs internally. Read that can cause heat issues, don't want to deal with that when I know mounting an SSD externally is so easy. Only reason I bought all those HRs was so I could put large internal HDDs in them. Don't have that need anymore.

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    Could yo expand on using the HR44/HR54 as a server?

    1. If I add one HR24 and keep the HR54 as a server, does the HR54 even have to be hooked up to a TV? In other words, can I search for programs from the HR24, which would be hooked to my TV, and tell the HR54 to record them?

    2. Using the HR24, when I play a recording off the HR54, will that eliminate the autoplay "feature" of the HR54? In other words the the recording, will be as if it was on the HR24, all functionality will be as if no HR54 existed other than providing the recording to the HR54.
     
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    Can't imagine not having the Genie hooked up to a TV. From what I've read the 24s treat auto-play differently than the Genies. I don't use my DVRs for anything but sports so that feature doesn't bother me. And I know very little about it.

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  5. Athlon646464

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    None of your DVRs 'have' to be hooked to a TV. Remember, however, that the first DVR is free and all others cost you $7 per month. So, having any of your DVRs not hooked to a TV will waste that $7 per month.

    And no, you cannot tell your HR24 to record on the HR54. You can watch the 54's content on your 24, but you cannot control a 54 from a 24.
     
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    If you can still login at directv.com and not be forwarded against your will to att.com then your account has not migrated. If you end up at att.com then your account has been migrated.
     
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    After additional thought, and your feedback, I too see no reason to own. I don't pay for the protection plan, have never had a need for it. Yes it gets you new equipment (if you want it) every 2 years, but from what I've just learned about the new DVRs (really the firmware used in them), I don't want the new ones. :)

    BTW, I bought the box you referenced off eBay.
     
  8. SledgeHammer

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    "Owned" is a moot point. If your account has been switched over to T, you can't activate an owned box.
     
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    Isn't that legacy billing? Don't they charge for the first TV now too? Also, if your DVR is a HS17, you don't get charged for that period. But I doubt they'll let you just randomly have a HS17 and nothing else since it requires a client.
     
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    I'm considering dropping the PP. I have the highest tier coverage and I'm beginning to think it's a waste of money. I hope the dock works well.

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  11. Athlon646464

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    (See my equipment in my sig)

    I just checked my account online - It's called 'TV Access Fee', and it says $7 off for your first TV. I'm paying $14 in total for my three devices for that fee.
     
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    Yeah, if you're an old timer, then you got the first TV "free". I think the all included packages were set up a bit different. Looks like T scrapped those though.
     
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    I have 2 units, the HR54 and Genie mini. They replaced 2 HR22s.
    The HR54 replaced an HR22 in the den where I watch 99% of TV. The mini replaced the HR22 in the theater where I rarely watch TV, but watch TV at times. Theater is more for movies than TV.
    Most of the time, when I watch TV it is live TV, except that often I have paused live TV or rewound it. So I'm actually watching buffered live TV. And I don't have to pay monthly fees for more boxes. :) I live alone.
    My den DVR HDMI out goes to an HDMI splitter. The high rez splitter output goes back to the den TV. I send 2 other HDMI splitter outputs to a bedroom TV and a kitchen TV. This way, I can move between rooms and continue watching the buffered live TV program(s). I wouldn't be able to do this if I had separate boxes for each room.
    That's why the HR54 would not be connected to a TV if I were to get an HR24 and keep the HR54 as a server. I would probably put it in the theater, but firing up the theater to set recordings is too much trouble and too much wear and tear on the projector.
    I got the mini so guests can watch their own shows. It's easy to move around, otherwise be a client for the theater.
    So if I ended up with the HR54, mini, and add an HR24, then I'd really only use the HR54 as a server. But as Athlon points out, that will cost me another $7 a month to keep all 3.
     
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    Thanks, good info! I end up at AT&T. :( The only reason to buy a used box is to save some money. I Can get them for less than $199. But I'm OK leasing.
     
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    I get $7 off my first TV too, and my contract just renewed because of new equipment. But... I have yet to receive my first bill, so who knows. What AT&T says on the phone and what you end up with is often different. I foresee a call soon. :(
     
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    But if you don't hook up the 54 to a TV how would you program the recordings you are gonna make on the 54? That's what I don't get.

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  17. b4pjoe

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    Via the mini or the DTV app. Certainly not from the 24 though.
     
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    That's why I asked if you can set "tell" the HR54 to record from the HR24. :)
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    The bigger annoyance with the HR54 (more so than autoplay) is the overshoot compensation, when coming out of fast forward, it doesn't back up enough. This is a daily/hourly annoyance. Both autoplay and overshoot compensation could be fixed by firmware. DTV used to monitor this site. If I thought they (AT&T) would offer a "switch" to disable autoplay (like Youtube and Netflix) and they would fix overshoot compensation, I would sit tight with the HR54. I love the 5 tuners of the HR54, but that's about it. :)
     

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