Help me select a new DVR. I hate the "autoplay" of the Genie HR54

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by nowandthen, Jul 3, 2019.

  1. SledgeHammer

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    Seems more convenient to just buy a new camcorder that was destroyed during a drunken escapade ;) on Amazon in 30 seconds vs. spending 15 - 30 minutes+ going through PP.

    Since you've been with DirecTV since 1995, that comes out to a measly $5800 for the PP alone! Imagine how much more booze and women you could have purchased! ;). Meanwhile you would have had to break like 20 camcorders in that time frame before "breaking" even.
     
  2. dreadlk

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    There was a time when that was worth while because you could upgrade your equipment every two years.
    If you had five or six DVRs that a lot of replacements over a 24 year period.
    Today it’s pathetic since ATT is not really making anything new. So that benefit is basically gone.
     
  3. SledgeHammer

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    There has NEVER been a point to upgrading every 2 yrs. HR20 -> HR24 was basically the same DVR with features removed. HR44/HR54 is basically the same DVR as well. HS17 is something new, but really nothing more then a gimmick at this point since there isn't really 4K content yet.

    Upgrading every 2 yrs was a mostly a gimmick to keep you under contract.

    Other thing people were using PP for was for owned boxes, but AT&T isn't allowing those anymore either.
     
  4. b4pjoe

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    So if you don't have the cheaper tier of the protection plan what happens if a DVR dies? I know with the protection plan it is a free replacement. Do you have to buy the replacement DVR if you don't have the cheaper protection plan?

    Also the HR54 upgrade removed features that the 44 had. Caller ID and PIP.
     
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    You have to pay $20 shipping fee.
     
  6. Rich

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    Yup. Gone. Now all I have to do is call ATT and drop most of the PP. I don't want to call those people.

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    I'm going to keep the lowest tier of the PP. Don't want to drop the whole thing.

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    I think that was AT&T's plan all along. Make the customer service so horrid no one wants to call. AT&T for the win.
     
  9. Bill Broderick

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    You could upgrade 1 piece of equipment every two years. That of course assumes that there was a level of equipment that was a tier higher than what you already had and that you wanted it. So, you were spending $168 every two years in the hopes that there would be some type of new equipment that you could upgrade to and potentially save $199.

    A few years ago, a CSR wanted to upgrade my equipment for free, in exchange for a new commitment. I asked him "What can you upgrade me to? I already have a Genie and two HD DVR's. The only option that you have is to give me a Genie 2 and two minis. If I let you do that, all I get is two fewer tuners that I can record from."

    Even without the protection plan, CSR's would upgrade good customers for free with a new commitment.

    If you didn't own your equipment, the protection plan has always been a really bad investment.
     
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  10. SledgeHammer

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    Depends on your account standing, but usually its comp'ed minus the s&h.
     
  11. SledgeHammer

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    EXACTLY which makes the PP even more worthless.
     
  12. Rich

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    Well, they won.

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    After almost 20yrs I'm ready to jump ship IF someone could tell me another comapnay that has the quivellant of DoublePlay-- 2 live tuners (that buffer for at least an hour) that i can access from any networked tv in the house. I use that feature all the time.

    I am gone from DTV when I can find that an alternative. I've been testing the cord-cutting waters with my HD Homerun Quad.
     
  14. Rich

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    Show me a way to get the sports I want some other way and I'd leave D* in a heartbeat. Streaming is not the way. I am truly stuck here.

    Rich
     
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    You're correct about the sports, that ties into my DoublePlay needs. I want to watch 2 football games, near live, no commercials on either.... Requires sports and two tuners.
     
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    Yeah, I know we have no viable alternative. Just doing something as simple as watching two games at a time becomes an ordeal everywhere else I've looked.

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    The 2 90 minute buffers is what keeps me with Directv. Go cable with a Tivo and you only get 30 minute buffers (with some technical exceptions to that, but they are 30 minute buffers). I don't know anything about Comcast DVRs. I don't know anything about Dish and their buffers.

    I "pretended" to have streaming only (tried not to use Directv). The streaming "DVRs" are horrible. I currently know of no substitute for a real DVR. A physical DVR automatically records new or both, the episodes are on your DVR for as long as you choose, and the most important thing, a physical DVR has great trick play; rewind, or pause, step forward or backward. Try that on Netfix or Youtube, or a streaming service, rewind/fast forward is in at least 10 second increments and I don't know of a way to step forward or backward. You don't have the granularity of a real DVR with streaming services.

    And... with everyone and their brother creating unique streaming services (e.g. Disney), you end up paying about the same or more buying multiple streaming services as you get with Directv. So what's the point of streaming, unless you are millennial? :) Couldn't resist.

    After pretending to "cut the cord", I found I am happier with Directv DVRs. Having just said that, and back to what this thread is about, I just got off the phone with Directv, 2 HR24s will be here on Tuesday. Goodbye HR54 Genie! Let me restate my previous statement: I am happier with Directv HR2x's. :)

    Edit: And... I had to fork over some money to make the DVR swap happen. That's how much I hate the HR54 and because I haven't found a better provider for what I want in a DVR.
     
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    With an Apple TV box or a Fire TV box you can skip forward and back and it's easy to pause and rewind. But you can't switch back and forth from program to program like you can with D*. Streaming remotes are good for "normal" viewing, when you try a streamer on a sport and try to simulate the way you would watch that game on D*...well, that's when the trick play on the streamers shows it's weakness. The Directv experience when it comes to sports cannot be beaten. I think.

    Rich
     
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    Rich,

    I want to thank you for figuring out why the DVRs get sluggish. I think (hope) 2 HR24s with external SSD drives will be my nirvana. The only thing I will miss about the HR54 is the 5 tuners.
     
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    I hope that works out for you. I've thought about giving up my 44 but it's such a good DVR. That software bothers me, the GUI bothers me. The 44 with the SSD runs so well it's hard to believe it's the same one I bought.

    Rich
     

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