Help setting up Dish 1000.2 with 3 wally receivers

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  1. Oct 1, 2018 #1 of 41
    Nickb1907

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    I called dish outdoors and they confirmed that you can have 3 wally receivers on a 1000.2 dish so I ordered the following:

    3 Wallys
    Dish Network WALLY single-tuner satellite receiver HD Smart receiver 753960014609 | eBay

    1000.2 Western Arc Dish
    DISH Network Hybrid Pro Western Arc LNB Satellite Dish Antenna DISH 1000.2 691162463217 | eBay

    I received the Dish and it has 3 coax connections (1, 2, LNB IN). I have not received the wallys yet.
    Do I just connect each wally to each coax connection? Is this setup even possible? The LNB IN is throwing me off. Any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. Oct 1, 2018 #2 of 41
    scooper

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    Only 2 + an input ? You can only use that for 2 Wallys. The input is for a wing dish. If it has 3 outputs plus the wing input, you're golden.

    Can you take a picture of the LNB so we can see the coax connectors ?

    You might be ok with that LNB with the addition of a switch
     
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    n0qcu

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    You will need a DPP LNB the hybrid won't work for more than a single Wally unless you can locate one of the new channel stack splitters.
     
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    Nickb1907

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    Nickb1907

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    All this is new to me. Do you have a part number for this magical splitter?

    Is there a disadvantage to using a dpp lnb over what I have and that splitter?
     
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    P Smith

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    yeah, you'll need replace your LNBF to kind DPP+ (it's not a "dish", it's active part of it ;) )
     
  8. Oct 4, 2018 #8 of 41
    Nickb1907

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    Thanks, I am returning the Dish I ordered due to the LNBF and it missing hardware/brackets. I am looking at this one now. The problem is the pictures show 2 different LNBFs. From this description would I receive the correct LNBF? I just want to be sure there are not multiple "Dish Pro Plus" LNBs.
    • Dish Pro Plus (DPP) LNB (looks at 110, 119 & 129 together also has an lnb port in for any additional sat)

    Dish Network 1000.2 SATELLITE ANTENNA Western Arc 110 119 129 West Triple LNB HD 691162463217 | eBay
     
  9. Oct 4, 2018 #9 of 41
    P Smith

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    oops !
    check second and third pictures ! there are different LNBFs (2 and 3 outputs / 1 input ) !
    which one you'll get ? who knows ?
     
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    Well I tried to set everything up this weekend and I got no signal. My zip is 77364 if there is another website yall use that is more accurate.

    Here is what I got off an app for setup. I ended up putting the dish where I marked an X in red. The skew/polarization was maxed out and had the dish almost completely sideways.
    Screenshot_20181103-123727.png

    Dish Networks website said to do this based on the zip code. Which lines up with what the app said except for the skew/polarization.
    Portable Dish Pointing Angle Guide | MyDISH | DISH Customer Support
    ELEVATION
    45
    SKEW
    124
    AZIMUTH
    215

    Which one is right?

    Questions:
    1) Since my LNBF has 3 lines going into it, does that mean that line 1 gets 119, line 2 gets 110, line 3 gets 129? So basically each line gets its own satellite? If this is true will the wally work off 1 satellite (from what I have read it will only work if all 3 satellites are picked up).

    2) The wally is looking for a switch during setup. I don't think I have one, do I need one?

    3) Does anyone have advice on how to point the satellite and setup each wally with this setup?

    Also I ran this cable from the satellite to the connections that were in the attic. The builder pre-ran the cable from each room up to one point in the attic. Hopefully this cable is okay for this install.
    https://www.lowes.com/pd/Southwire-500-ft-18-AWG-RG6-Black-Coax-Cable/3332652
     
  12. scooper

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    Dish's marking on the skew is likely to be different from the aiming sites. Use the Dish table to get the correct values.

    EACH Wally needs a cable to the LNB. So, you will need 3 cables coming from the Dish down to your common point, then use barrel connectors to join the ends in the attic.

    When aiming the dish - set the skew then don't touch it ever again. You will see a pointer on the dish, along with degree marks for this.

    Next, use some aluminum foil to cover the 2 outside LNBs (110 and 129). Aim the dish so the weakest non-spotbeam transponder is at the max value you can get. then pull off the foil and do the check dish installation.After one wally is recieving, then hookup the other 2 and also do a check switch on them as well.

    COAX CABLE - in the early days, as long as it was RG6, it was fine. Now, Dish has requirements for the cable to be swept to pass a certain frequency range (typically 2.2 GHz now).

    If you can't get it aimed, it might be easier to just have an installer come and do it for you.
     
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    I've found the skew listings at DishPointer.com to be much more reliable than those listed in the Dish charts in many cases. Going just by ZIP code, there can be several degrees difference depending on the shape and size of the ZIP geographical area and the dish location within it. Just look at the difference between the skew angles for some adjoining ZIP's on the chart, and then think about what happens if you're near a region's perimeter. The chart is based on everyone being at the geographical center. As an RV'er that changes locations and re-aims a triple LNB dish frequently, I learned long ago that the Dish charts were not the most reliable source for peak signals on multiple satellites. The chart settings will generally work, they just don't always work the best.
     
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    See comments in red.
     

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    Are you looking at the correct arc and multi-LNB 1000.2 dish settings on DishPointer for your address or coordinates? The multi-LNB listings are towards the bottom of the satellite list.
     
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    You want the skew mark like your picture - red mark up.
     
  17. Nickb1907

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    That must have been the variation issue. I was just putting in sat 119 in my app.

    According to dishpointer.com I should be at 124.1 for multi lnb. Skew problem solved.
     
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    At least the Dish chart hit it almost right on for your location. ;)
     
  19. Nickb1907

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    Tried to get through setup yesterday and I got to the activation screen, called dish to activate, and after 10 min received the activation signal. Now it says complete signal loss and this is what I see in diagnosis. 20181123_102924_1542990802884_001.jpg

    This was connected directly to the first line on the lnb (119 sat). I don't know why 129 shows up. Any help to get further would be appreciated. Tried to get dish help and was transferred twice and then ended up with RV tech support which was closed on holidays.
     
  20. P Smith

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    did you put alum foil over 110 & 129W LNBFs keep only one 119W (middle one) and re-aim the dish
     

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