Naw, I don't want to burden the West Coast with my personal approach to life. And I'm not putting down anyone's work. I'm just a Murphy's Law guy who thinks if Plan A doesn't work Dish always should have a Plan B to immediately start implementing and which would accomplish nearly the same goals in a time frame fairly close to the Plan A time frame. I'm sure the Baikonur folks with their Proton's are just as talented and work just as hard as anyone in the rocket biz. They've had plenty of successes. But AMC 14 wasn't one of them and they are launching Ciel-2. And even if they successfully get by the potential 1-in-10 failure rate, it isn't a given that the satellite itself will work as planned. This is risky business. Echostar 5 is dying. Any major glitch and HD as we know it here in the Western Arc is in serious trouble. Some thought Plan B was Echostar 8 but I don't see how that would work particularly since it's already moving to 77° from 110°. So I'm looking around for a plausible Plan B. As a Dish customer for TV service, I really don't care if they deliver the signal by having some guy stand on top of a nearby mountain with aluminum foil on his head serving as a repeater. That's silly for a Plan B. Except that with regard to AMC 14's Plan B, it appeared that aluminum foil guy was as solid as anything they had ready to go. So I'm wishing for some luck with Ceil-2 for Dish, the retail service company that provides my TV signal. Because I think they need some good luck.