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Help with Whole House MVR. (Very Complicated Install and setup)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by FLKEN, Jul 11, 2018.

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  1. FLKEN

    FLKEN New Member

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    Unfortunately this is going to be long as you need some background.

    We have a ton of receivers at our home. It was being fed a 5LNB going to 4 PP splitters feeding 2 -16 way SWM multiswitch.

    This was recently modified to include a 2nd dish feeding a 3rd 16 way multiswitch How I asked the installer to set it up was to have 8 of the inside DVRs (HR24's) on the new dish and 16 way MS and leave everything else on the old dish.

    The idea being that the 8 DVR's would then talk to each other for MVR.

    However that's not what is happening. Some of the Main 8 see some others, while some receivers listed in the MVR screen show other receivers not even on this multiswitch .

    I want the 8 inside to see only these 8 DVRs and be able to use MVR. The other 16 DVRs in the closet and talk on trheir own network. Yet some of the closet 16 DVR's are seeing some of the receivers inside on a different MS and a different Dish.

    Any idea how he has this messed up ? At one time I use to know all of the DTV equipment (not so much anymore). Besides leaving the workspace a complete cluster frik of a mess with coax, I will add some pics to see if it helps you identify what he is doing and how we can fix it (All receivers are HR24's)
     

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  2. FLKEN

    FLKEN New Member

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    A few more
     

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  3. WestDC

    WestDC Well-Known Member

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    MVR-Limit to 16 - That's the max
     
  4. FLKEN

    FLKEN New Member

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    okay, how do we get it to only use the 16" that we want. Also each receiver only shows 5 other receivers. How do you identify what the other 11 are that each receiver is seeing?
     
  5. texasbrit

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    Are your two groups of DVRs still connected to each other via a single router?
     
  6. FLKEN

    FLKEN New Member

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    Yes there is only 1 router in the property.

    But each bank of DVR's are plugged into a separate device (Not sure what its called) that is connected to a Cat 5 back to the router
     
  7. WestDC

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    Those are DECA's and send mrv and internet content over rg6 - You would need to place the 16 you want on the same network.

    What you could do is Install another Dish and feed 8 dvr's off that dish
     
  8. FLKEN

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    We have 1 bank of 8 DVR's that are on its own dish

    The other 16 are being fed from another Dish

    Yet DVR's from Bank 1 are seeing some DVR's from Bank 2 and vice versa.

    Also the DVR's only display 4 or 5 other DVR's under MVR. How do we get them show all 16?
     
  9. WestDC

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    I suggest you look at solid signal . Com
    Check the blog for information. Lots of directv information on deca mrv testing.

    You can also call them
     
  10. jimmie57

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    I am not an installer and would never tackle a project like this.
    From what I am reading it sounds like the wiring thru splitters is screwed up and this allows the cross access / lack of access to the different banks of receivers.
     
  11. WestDC

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    He has 2 Swm-16 in the mix and Having Receivers on Swim-1-16 - and having Receivers on Swim 2-16 That could be the one of the many reasons for some not seeing each others as well if they are not all on the same Swim-16 - as MRV will not cross between 2 different swim-16 ( they Will only see each receiver if connected to Leg 1 & Leg 2 of the same swim)

    I sent him to SS site to find mrv information and testing info for MRV - Rather that explain it here
     
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    Is the MRV limit 16 if they're all on DECA, or is that true even if there are small DECA networks of say 4 receivers each connected to the same ethernet segment via DECAs? If the latter is the case, then the fact they are all connected to the same ethernet network via DECAs is causing him to exceed 16. He'd have to put the ones he wants to share with each other on one subnet, and the rest on a separate subnet.
     
  13. Rich

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    We considered adding another dish when we installed the cascaded two SWM16 MRV system. Couldn't figure out how to get the two clouds (each SWM has a cloud) to merge. The cascaded system worked, the clouds merged. All 12 HRs were on the MRV system. How did that work...not well. Seems the more HRs you have the more problems you have. Now I have 5 active HRs in the house on the two SWMs (I use a lot of terminators), still have the same cabling and the MRV works perfectly.

    I gotta ask, how do the clouds merge with 2 dishes? I couldn't see it years ago and I don't see it now, but that's just me.

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    Can't even begin to imagine the problems we'd have with 16 HRs on a system.

    Rich
     
  15. texasbrit

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    That's why I asked him about the router. If both sets of receivers are connected to the same router on the same network, they will see each other.
     
  16. Rich

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    With two dishes? Still not certain why we did not go that route.

    Rich
     
  17. Abe Frohman

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    Why do this at all? Who needs to record 16 things at once? you need to go outside.
     
  18. Rich

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    Never had to record that many programs but I did have a bunch of HRs that I used to backup content because the HRs kept failing. But that was years ago.

    Rich
     
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    I have 12 HR2x’s and a Genie with 2 clients, so 29 tuners. I have the same 4 splitters to a parallel SWM-16 with 2 ICK’s each running Cat5 to router. Every DVR talks to each other and the entire playlist is shown for every DVR, however the whole home screen will only list a limit of 5 DVR’s max, even though there are more connected.

    About every week or so, I get DVR’s falling off the network, and simple reboots bring them back. But the nag on the screen will say for example ‘Kitchen has been disconnected from network’.

    Last year the tech who brought my C61K came back and installed a second dish since we were having miscellaneous problems. If I remember correctly, he connected the HR54 Genie to the 2nd dish, using it as a bridge back to the router to connect all receivers to the same cloud, and share playlist.

    We had a lot of issues often with playing back recorded programs back and forth across different receivers. I then rewired and ran everything off the same dish. Since then, we only have intermittent times where recordings cannot be played back on other receivers, usually only a couple times a week. We get the occasional ‘no audio/video packets’, or ‘recording cannot be played back at this time’ nag. I’m not sure how to assist with your problem at this time.
     
  20. Rich

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    12 seems to be too many. I had a similar setup (12 HRs on 10 TV sets) but my SWM16s were cascaded. Had the same issues. I have 5 HRs now on MRV and still see them drop off from time to time. A proper reset of the MRV system (one HR rebooted at a time until all have been rebooted) helps. Appears using two dishes helped, that's interesting.

    Rich
     

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