Here Comes The Price Increase So AT&T Can Pay The For The Acquisition Of DirecTV

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  1. James Long

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    The DVR fee is increasing ... from $12 to $15 for customers with a Hopper. Add that to the $8 AEP increase and one has more than a $10 increase.

    AEP is still sold ... America's "Everything" Pack (and DISH even advertises it with the quote marks!).
     
  2. codespy

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    Count me as one of the subs getting nailed on this round of increases. Usually premier goes up in $5.00 increments not $8.00, coupled with my 13 HD-DVR's, I'm guessing my bill goes up $14.71 including tax every month/$177.00 a year? Of course the DVR fee didn't go up at all, because I get that for free.

    Hopefully these increases come with a complimentary jar of something! :(
     
  3. SHS

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    If it real dose gose up a lot then with a in few months from now this coming April when my dish contract is up I just make a switch to must likely to cable as it would be must chearp at lease as much $50 with 2 TiVo DVR and get more tuner for less and could save even more if I where to get some Silicondust HD HomeRun to go with Emby and AndoirdTV/Roku boxs. But that not going happing becuase of copy protected channels ever where so we can't record them to watch later so there are only two option 6 Analog HD receiver with Software DVR like SageTV, NextPVR or 2nd option is to just get CableONE TiVo DVR, the only down side there a few missing channel we like but then agine Dish dosen't have the MavTV Channel BooHoo any more but with CableTV we miss El Rey and SpikeTV DBL BooHoo which is not a big deal as only thing we watch on Spike it is PowerNation also know Powerblock TV which also on NBC Sports Network Channel.
     
  4. PrinceLH

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    A la Carte needs to be implemented and some of the greedy providers can take a hit on their poor performers. I would certainly love to pick and choose what I want. I'm sick of paying for twice as many channels than I watch, but due to bundling, I'm stuck paying for them. I only watch about 20 channels, the rest can go the way of the dodo.
     
  5. peds48

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    Do you really think you can pay $.14 cents per channel? DirecTV can, you probably be paying lots more than that!


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  6. KyL416

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    Chances are those 20 channels are being subsidized by a more popular sister station you don't watch. i.e. All of Viacoms digital channels are so cheap because most of the overhead is being paid for by their more popular sister stations like Nickelodeon, MTV, Comedy Central and VH1. The techs working in the control room, the people working in ad sales, marketing and accounting, and all the other office staff have the same job no matter which channels you select. Developing pilots still costs money, the actors, writers and crew still get paid even if you don't pick up the pilot. If they have to split it up, that cost will be applied to all of their channels, so now instead of paying only $0.17 for TV Land or $0.13 for TeenNick, you'll now be paying over $2 for each of them.

    And if you watch some of the more expensive channels like TNT or TBS, you can expect an even larger increase since they can no longer rely on their sister channels to spread the cost of the NBA, MLB and NCAA rights. Which also creates another future problem, next time those rights are up for renewal, a channel that doesn't have sports might be more appealing to league and their advertisers if they're now in more homes than ESPN or FS1, and then channels like USA, Spike, A&E or even AMC might end up with the rights.

    Also if any of those 20 channels are niche, you can forget about them even existing or keeping the same format if they now have to appeal to the masses to get carriage or increase their price to make up for lost ad revenue because they're now in less homes.
     
  7. dpeters11

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    Right, a la carte sounds great, but would never work out in our favor. Or a lot of niche channels would completely go under, inevitably something you liked.
     
  8. CTJon

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    I didn't mean in their own minds - I meant they probably said that to regulators as justification. I'm one of those believers that think the reason for corporationg is to make profits and they obviously lie to regulators to get that done.
     
  9. fleckrj

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    The regulators do not care about customers, either. With the exception of enforcing existing antitrust laws, regulators, too, are only looking out for the shareholders.
     
  10. Gloria_Chavez

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    The new TNT NBA deal taks effect in 2016. TNT agreed to double the rights paid to the NBA. So look for a substantial increase in the TNT monthly carriage fees next year.
     
  11. HoTat2

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    That's why the consumers' only real defense lies with themselves and use their responsibilities to their share holders against them. When the cancelations and fleeing to lower packages begin to mount the MVPDs, Hollywood, and others get the message real quick. Or else their stockholders will quickly see declining profits.

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  12. slice1900

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    There was an article written at Motley Fool earlier this year about what prices would be if you could actually buy one channel at a time:

    http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/04/01/espn-for-36-analyst-shows-true-cost-of-a-la-carte.aspx

    If you like ESPN, would you pay $36/month for it? That's just ESPN, doesn't even include ESPN2! If you or some others who watch it regularly now wouldn't, the asking price would be even higher for it for them to maintain their current profitability. Do you have kids who watch Disney and Nickelodean? Just those two channels would be over $13/month under ala carte. Channels that couldn't get enough subscribers at a price that would support their operations would simply fold - selection would go way way down because most channels are not watched by more than a few percent of viewers with any regularity.

    You can argue channels would be forced to accept less money, but then there's less original content. Sports channels can simply bid less for rights and athletes have to accept lower salaries but are still rich so no one is really hurt there. But how are Disney and Nickelodean going to cut costs? Maybe Disney starts showing commercials? Both would develop a lot less new content (which maybe isn't terrible, would the world be a worse place if Spongebob was never created?) and probably go back to the 80s style cartoons where everything has a marketing tie-in and cartoons are basically 30 minute ads for toys. If that happens you probably aren't willing to pay for them at all, so they fold and there's nothing for kids to watch on TV. Oh well, more time for them to play video games I guess! What about AMC, if they have to cut costs they don't develop the next Mad Men or Walking Dead, and go back to their old format of just showing old movies. Some people would like that, but then there's less original content and so something they are working on now for the 2017 season that you might have thought was the best show you ever watched never hits the screen.
     
  13. slice1900

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    I prefer my prophets to be reclining not declining. Being a prophet is hard work and those guys deserve their rest at the end of a hard day of sermoning on the mount. :rotfl:

    The channels that are only available in the upper tier packages would be the first to feel that pain. Declining subscribers at those tiers will probably cause them to ask for more money at first, but eventually they may seek when contracts are renegotiated to accept less money and move to a lower tier to get wider coverage. The movement into the lower packages doesn't really affect the majority of the channels that aren't gone. The thing to watch is people moving into the very bottom tier packages where a significant number of channels are lost - like switching to the Family package on Directv. It has 50 channels but if you exclude PI/shopping type channels, east/west dupes etc. most people would consider it to have only about 10 channels plus locals. Surprised to see Disney in there since they aren't cheap - guess that is Disney's price for excluding ESPN from a package!
     
  14. HoTat2

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    Lol, I fixed it ... "profits"

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  15. SHS

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    It wouldn't hurt my feeling on bit if they got rid of ESPN as I haven't watch any thing on it in well over 20 years as It just a junk channel just like MTV, MTV 2 and other.
     
  16. inkahauts

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    You are late to the game on that their prices have already gone up with their new contracts since they signed the nba deal. Why else would dish have them off the air last year for a better deal....
     
  17. Tom Robertson

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    Every time a company has tried to completely eliminate ESPN to lower their costs, the attempts have failed. There aren't enough subscribers who are willing to give up ESPN to be viable.

    There has been a limited success with trying to create hidden or lesser known packages that don't have ESPN--though my understanding is contracts with ESPN limit what percentage of customers can subscribe to those packages.

    Peace,
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  18. litzdog911

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    You're in the minority.
     
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  19. peds48

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    Me too! Never watch ESPN.


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  20. SHS

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    Tom that dose depend what after as to bad they didn't get rigth years ago that why I was so happy when SPEED Channel come out
    Now I mostly watch Velocity are few other channel I wish we had MavTV back on Dish there where good show I like.
     

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