HOA bummer

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by lifeislife, Mar 15, 2008.

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  1. Mar 15, 2008 #21 of 106
    Grentz

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    That's fine, think what you like, and continue to not realize we are not control freaks at all in our HOA as I said both times. In fact none of the homes look the same and there are really no decor rules or anything like that. Most of it for our HOA deals with services (snow removal, garbage, electric street lighting) and how to maintain the public grounds. I also never called you a hillbilly, don't make it about you. Thanks for also snipping out a lot of my post that added explaination to my case.

    Lets also not forget that every house on the street has OTA antennas and almost every house has satellite service. All are done tastefully and function just as well as if someone put the dish on their mailbox or in the middle of their roof streetside. I see how our HOA (which lets not forget is made up of the residents in our small association) has so drastically effected our ability to get service :rolleyes:

    You are using the stereotypical HOA to judge our HOA which is nothing like the hardcore strick type of HOA that does exist in many places and controls what your houses look like and pretty much everything about every outside piece of the residences.
     
  2. Mar 15, 2008 #22 of 106
    litzdog911

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    Beauty is in the eye of beholder. :D
     
  3. Mar 15, 2008 #23 of 106
    Grentz

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    True I guess, and I understand its uses where needed.

    But in these days of people being mislead about technology this way and that, you could very easily have someone putting one of those up when they only need a much smaller antenna or could easily do an attic mount.
     
  4. Mar 15, 2008 #24 of 106
    flogduh

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    Also - don't forget that if you're in an HOA, you usually pay monthly HOA dues or fees. If you end up suing the HOA, you are, in effect, suing yourself to some extent. If the HOA has to pay damages in a lawsuit, you will pay a portion of those damages as well.

    The threat of a lawsuit should be your last resort. Most of these issues are resolved once the members of the HOA board of directors become informed of the FCC regulations...
     
  5. Mar 15, 2008 #25 of 106
    griz

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    Is that so bad? Pay a small amount, get a larger amount back!
    Sounds like an investment to me. :)
     
  6. Mar 15, 2008 #26 of 106
    SledDog

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    Come to Florida on enjoy some of the HOA's we have here... Most of the them are run by Condo Commandos.. You know... The retirees from "up north" that have nothing better to do then stick their nose in everyone business...

    You can't miss 'em... They're the people walking around with rulers in one pocket and a ticket book in the other. They measure the height of your lawn and issue tickets if it's too high, or if you put your trash cans out to early, or don't pick 'em up right after the are emptied, or if you park a $55,000 F-350 in your driveway instead of the garage. There have been many court cases about home owners trying to fly an American flag on their property and the HOA fining them for doing so...

    The idea that a group of people (the HOA) can place a Super Lien on your property, because you have tickets for grass that is too high, and FORCE you to sell your home/condo, is why thy should be banned..

    And it's not that unusual for a property owner, here in Florida, having to go to court to get a dish installed...

    HOA counsels and boards are a haven for people that have nothing better to do then attempt to run other people lives and intrude into their personal business.

    I had a dish mounted on a tripod, on my condo patio because the HOA provided cable was terrible. The HOA said I had to take it down because it violated the condo rules. I showed them the FCC rule about small dishes. They said "So what? Either take it down or we will fine you." I told 'em I would see them in court. Their response was "Go ahead, We'll see you in court." They fined me $50.00 per day for having the dish.

    Well, I won. They paid. They assessed everyone (including ME!!) a special fee to pay for the court, HOA lawyer, and my lawyers fees. I moved (sold my unit) before the fee was due. And they still threaten to sue me if I didn't pay the fee. I told 'em to stuff it and never paid.
     
  7. Mar 15, 2008 #27 of 106
    bdowell

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    Preach on with your limits. Next thing you know someone will be passing rules about how big something else may be, or not be.

    Thanks, but no thanks. HOAs have shown far too many times that the people that make the rules (as in the case of the OP here) are too quick to assume they can exercise their power as they see fit, rather than using common sense.

    You said it yourself, you don't want unsightly or horrid looking mini-dishes on the road facing front of the home.

    You've just said again you want to restrict antenna sizes, or minimize them or force people to go with attic mounts when possible.

    Again, no thanks.

    I don't think people should get stupid about the antennas they mount, but I also don't think others (like you) should get to decide for them what roadblocks may be placed in their way before they are 'permitted' to mount an antenna or mini-dish on their property.
     
  8. Mar 15, 2008 #28 of 106
    tcusta00

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    I know there's extremes and it sounds like there's a nightmare where you're living. But I'm sure you'd agree that there's extremes in anything, A cop pulling you over for going 1 mph over the speed limit - does that make all cops irrational time wasters? Or a DirecTV installer who does a shoddy job - does that make all DirecTV installers lazy and bad workers? You see where I'm going with this...
     
  9. Mar 15, 2008 #29 of 106
    flogduh

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    I understand the math, but I know of what I speak, trust me!;) I live in a disfunctional HOA....You may end up in a better financial position, but to get anything more than your dish installed won't be worth it in the long haul if you plan to live there. Not only will the HOA BODs be a pain in your arse, but your neighbors will dispise you as well.
     
  10. Mar 15, 2008 #30 of 106
    flogduh

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    SledDog - did it surprise you that they assessed you the same fee as the other HOA members? It shouldn't have.

    Given the HOA BOD members thumbed their nose and recklessly moved forward into a lawsuit, it would have been interesting to see the HOA membership seek out damage reimbursement from those specific BOD members who caused the "train wreck"
     
  11. Mar 15, 2008 #31 of 106
    tcusta00

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    If you don't live in an HOA that regulates your property then you don't have to worry about it. From where I'm sitting it seemed to me that you were attacking Grentz by inserting his name in someone else's post and placing a label on him as an HOA "monster" which to me, from his previous posts, would seem he's not.
     
  12. Mar 15, 2008 #32 of 106
    SledDog

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    Their position was every owner had to pay the fee. That included me, even though I won the lawsuit. You must remember that here in the land of the retiree, they don't care about anything but the power they hold by being on the board.

    They, the power hungry, make sure they stack the board by banding together and electing the same "like minded" people. A busy-body retiree, with nothing better to do, and with too much time on their hands is the make up of a good portion of the HOAs in Florida. That's why there is a big push to limit their power and ability to place liens on someone property.
     
  13. Mar 15, 2008 #33 of 106
    Tom Robertson

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    Guys, please let us remember to be kind to each other. And if possible let us try to help the OP and his situation, not bash HOAs completely.

    Thanks,
    Tom
     
  14. Mar 16, 2008 #34 of 106
    joe diamond

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    Anybody know of a HOA that attempted a SMAT (System Master Antenna) system for DTV or DISH? You do not need a dish for every unit. During the planning stage a few dishes with underground runs would be easy to set up. I just keep seeing these pissing contests that result from no plan.

    Joe
     
  15. Mar 16, 2008 #35 of 106
    Grentz

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    Never heard of one but that would be very cool.

    With some commercial equipment you could easily send the signal to multiple homes/residences from a single master setup. Would make it easy for everyone as they no longer would have to have dish installs, and only a few main dishes to worry about for alignment and view of the sky and such.
     
  16. Mar 16, 2008 #36 of 106
    harsh

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    Even more important, know your responsibilities as a homeowner. If the process and conditions are spelled out in the contract or bylaws, then shame on the homeowner. If it isn't spelled out in the contract or bylaws, then shame on the HOA.

    I'm pretty sure that you can sign away your rights by signing an HOA contract.
     
  17. Mar 16, 2008 #37 of 106
    harsh

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    This is typically known as a Multiple Dwelling Unit (MDU) installation. For high density housing this not uncommon. For conventional subdivisions, it typically isn't practical.
     
  18. Mar 16, 2008 #38 of 106
    bonscott87

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    Ahhhh, it's threads like these that make be glad I live in a city neighborhood. "Leave it to Beaver" land they call it because despite being 60+ years old the vast majority of the houses are nice, lawns kept up and nice big trees. City ordinances keep things like junker cars from being on the lawn or people not mowing their yard.

    But it sure is nice seeing my 5 LNB dish on my fence post in the backyard and my 1 meter FTA dish on a tripod next to it knowing that nobody can tell me I can't have them. And this weekend I pulled my popup camper out of the garage into the driveway to clean it up and get it ready for camping season and nobody is going to pound on my door complaining it's been out for more then 6 hours.

    Ahhhh, no HOA's, ever, ever, ever. And my property value is just fine thank you very much. :D
     
  19. Mar 16, 2008 #39 of 106
    JohnL

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    Harsh,

    Exactly correct. If the provision in the contract is illegal then it matters not the contract was signed.

    John
     
  20. Mar 16, 2008 #40 of 106
    glennb

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    I'd never live in an area where you have to get permission for something like this.
     
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