Hold on to your wallets NFLST fans.......

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by keithtd, Dec 6, 2011.

  1. MikeW

    MikeW Hall Of Fame

    May 16, 2002
    I am so tired of seeing people say "vote with your wallet". That is the most ridiulous arguiment around. As if anyone could get a decent cable or satellite package without paying the ESPN excise tax.
  2. Shades228

    Shades228 DaBears

    Mar 18, 2008
    Then you accept the cost for ESPN. There are packages out there that don't have ESPN they may not meet the needs of everyone but there are options. At some people people will cancel a service if it becomes too expensive and the channel options they want don't exist. So saying vote with your wallet is fine and it's the best sound advice. Some people though won't be willing to make the decision because they feel it's a sacrifice.
  3. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    It's not ESPN who's really the greedy channel that ESPN haters like to think it is.

  4. RunnerFL

    RunnerFL Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    They will always charge what people are willing to pay.
  5. mreposter

    mreposter Hall Of Fame

    Jul 29, 2006
    ESPN spends billions on programming every year and Disney knows that it is relatively easy to pass on those costs to consumers by jacking up rates for the ESPN suite of channels.

    Nickelodeon, Cooking channels may have higher margins, but their programming costs are a small fraction of what ESPN spends. For instance, ESPN's new cost for Monday Night Football is estimated to be $1.9B/yr. That's just for 3 hours of programming once a week for 16 weeks.

    If Ovation decided to go spend a couple billion dollars on programming and then demand $5/month per sub they'd be laughed out of business. ESPN and the other sports nets know that fans will demand sports programming no matter what the cost, so they have no real incentives to contain licensing rights costs - they just pass it onto the cable companies who pass it on to consumers. If the NFL demanded $5B for MNF, ESPN would probably end up paying it because they know in the end that they can get those costs back and at a healthy markup.
  6. FenixTX

    FenixTX Godfather

    Nov 11, 2005
    The 1.9 billion a year that ESPN is paying the NFL is for more than just the MNF game. It's for more highlights and programming shows they can air.
  7. MikeW

    MikeW Hall Of Fame

    May 16, 2002
    Low cash flow doesn't change the fact that they spend BILLIONS on sports contracts then pass the charges on to the consumers. Those billions help support the multi million dollar contracts of many un-deserving athletes.

    Anyone want to point to the package that has the channels my wife wants (Lifetime and LMN) along with the cartoons my child wants (Nick, Cartoon Net, Boom) that doesn't also include ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN news?

    We're already at $60 for a base package now and it will only continue to climb year after year.
  8. lokar

    lokar Icon

    Oct 7, 2006
    I realize this is just for the Sunday Ticket, but these endless price hikes are going to be the end of DirecTV eventually. I think the number of people cutting the cord will keep rising as long as their prices do. I would really like to see the networks and ESPN collude and say "No those prices are too high, we are not going to pay them." Because if the networks give in to these prices, they will start demanding more from their affiliates, the affiliates will try to recoup that with higher retrans fees, which will eventually be passed on to you in a higher bill or the loss of that channel in a carriage dispute, which are already becoming more frequent.
  9. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    I voted with my wallet. This is my 2nd year without Sunday Ticket and frankly I'm just fine. NFL Red Zone channel on Uverse is great and I've been to the bar a couple times with friends (I would have went anyway even if I had ST). Saved a ton of money and I don't miss it.
  10. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    Fortunately for me, I'm not a NFLST fan, but my son who is, is crying in his beer. If he wants it next year, he'll have to pony up whatever it ends up costing or do without.

    SPACEMAKER Freethinker

    Dec 11, 2007
    Mason, MI
    If he's old enough to drink beer he's old enough to get the hell out of your house and pay for his own NFLST. :lol:
  12. Jason Nipp

    Jason Nipp Analog Geek in a Digital World Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

    Jun 10, 2004
    This is one of the reasons I never saw ST as a competitive advantage. Yes I know it is a necessary part of some users lives, but when does it get just too darn expensive to care if you can see every single game on Sunday? IMHO I'm just not that into teams other than the couple I follow.
  13. lparsons21

    lparsons21 Hall Of Fame

    Mar 4, 2006
    Herrin, IL
    He is paying for his own NFLST, or will be next year if he wants it. When I made the switch from Dish to Direct, he paid the upfront costs because he was the one that wanted it, I didn't actually care. I'm fine with either service.

    As to moving out, well let's just say the job market around here is the pits and since his now ex-wife showed him the one-way nature of the door... :)
  14. pappy97

    pappy97 Icon

    Nov 14, 2009
    Two pages of this thread and no mention yet of commercial Sunday Ticket??

    Even if the NFL demands more money, DirecTV can pass the majority of costs on the commerical subs. You and I can not sub to NFLST, but sports bars? CASINO'S? Does anyone really think that commercial subs will stop subbing? If individuals don't sub to NFLST, but want to see it, they need to go to commercial establishments. Those commercial establishments, IMHO, are not going to all of a sudden stop subbing, even if they get another rate increase.
  15. Herdfan

    Herdfan Well-Known Member

    Mar 18, 2006
    But then they risk losing revenue from the networks. Even better to sell 2 widgets at $6.
  16. DCSholtis

    DCSholtis Up The Irons!

    Aug 7, 2002
    UGH well I will keep getting ST no matter what but it is getting close...
  17. zimm7778

    zimm7778 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 11, 2007
    As this keeps going up they may possibly go back to the early days option of every game or every game for your team.
  18. bixler

    bixler Hall Of Fame

    Oct 14, 2008
    Exactly....it's really as simple as that. The market will always set the price.
  19. MikeW

    MikeW Hall Of Fame

    May 16, 2002
    I don't ever remember a time where you could pick your team. I honestly believe they'll never do that because it would dilute many current subs.
  20. zimm7778

    zimm7778 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 11, 2007
    Very early years. I seem to recall all games from 1 team was like $79 and every game was $159 or something like that.

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