Hollywood Reporter: AT&T's Streaming Headache: Why Is DirecTV Now Losing Subscribers?

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  1. rccoleman

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    I get the same thing a lot. I'm tired of the "Well, you can't just watch it, but you could rent/buy it here, here, or here!" I do like the X-Ray feature of Amazon, though. At any point you can get an on-screen display that tells you both the actor and character name of everyone on the screen.
     
  2. NashGuy

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    I'm guessing that you own an Amazon Fire TV stick/box? Yes, the UI there is not good. But if you open the Prime Video app on Apple TV or (I think) Roku, almost all the stuff you see in there is stuff that's actually included with your Prime Video subscription, as long as you don't click the tiles to go into any of the clearly labeled Amazon Channels (add-on subscriptions) for HBO, Showtime, CBS All Access, etc. But on the main screens -- Home, Originals, Movies, TV, Kids -- over 95% of the titles shown are available for no extra charge. They do mingle a very few titles from various Amazon Channels into those main screens, e.g. "Home Again on Showtime" at the top of the Movies screen. So, at least with the Prime Video app on Apple TV, I have no problems finding tons of content that doesn't require paying extra for. (And that app doesn't even give you the option to buy or rent individual titles. You have to do that on another device or on the Amazon website, then the rented/purchased title shows up in the Video Library section of the app on Apple TV.)

    Now, all that said, I still think that the UI of the Prime Video app is rather poorly designed. But for other reasons, not what you said.

    Apart from that, what content have you found that Netflix and Prime Video have in common? I'm sure there are a few TV series -- "Parks and Recreation" is one -- but whatever overlap exists between the two is a pretty small sliver of their overall libraries.
     
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  3. mjwagner

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    I’m not a fan of the UI but if you are using a FireTV streaming device you can just scroll down to any of the “Prime” lines and everything listed there is included with prime. For example, if you scroll down to the line marked “Prime 4k ultra hd movies” everything you scroll thru on that line is a movie in 4k uhd that is included in Prime.
     
  4. Soccernut

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    My wife and I really enjoy Netflix and Amazon Prime, you can always find something interesting to watch from America or the world.
    English TV mysteries series are very good, some amazing documentaries also.
    Bottom line for now it's a bargain, if there's something else that's a better value in the future we will go with that.
     
  5. dreadlk

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    This discussion is kind of funny because on one hand you have a couple of people saying Netflix has this huge churn rate and on the other side you have all these people saying they love Netflix. So who on here has dropped their Netflix subscription?

    Under $20 a month gets you a four account login.
    They are also being accused of making too much content which BTW is typically top notch stuff. Why would you ever leave this sweet deal?

    As for delivery of cable vs Netflix it’s a no brained. Netflix has no infrastructure to maintain and there dynamic bandwidth algorithm is the best in the world. Even with a slow connection you can still get a fairly good picture.


    Another item is this idea of them selling internationally as a negative, it’s one of their biggest advantages as they can reach anybody who has internet servicece.
     
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    I've dropped Netflix many times.
     
  7. mjwagner

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    NetFlix is currently one of the best bargains in entertainment around. Their rising subscriber numbers vs the ever accelerating loss of subscribers by the sat/cable companies, no matter how you try to spin it, tells the story. All the “but, but, buts” by the sat/cable supporters just sound like whistling past the graveyard to me.
     
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    Something I noticed about D*’s steaming service is the need to have my box or in my case LG Oled plugged into my network. I get they are trying to give me the best possible pic but I don’t want to have to do this. I stream HD content from a cable card/HD-HomeRun though both Netflix and Emby without fail. If I’d use a streaming service it would probably be YouTube TV for this fact alone.


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  9. Rich

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    There's a lot of good stuff on Hulu. Finding it is difficult at times. What kind of problems did you have with Amazon Prime? That's easy to navigate thru, I think. AP has quite a few original content series that are very good.

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  10. Rich

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    The Amazon Prime app on the Apple TV boxes shows mostly Prime content. When we want to watch content on Amazon we do use the apps on the Fire TV devices rather than the ATV app because the ATV app is limited to Prime offerings. Different folks, different strokes. In any event if you want to see Prime content, the Apple TV app is probably a better choice, but you have to have an ATV.

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  11. lparsons21

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    Or you can just run the Prime app on the FireTV and get the same thing.


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  12. James Long

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    No storage? No streaming servers? No network connecting their servers to the Internet? The last I checked Netflix has plenty of infrastructure to maintain (or lease services maintained by others on their behalf). And that is ignoring their DVD service.

    Netflix may not be paying for the last mile (although they do pay to host servers at some ISPs) but they still have a lot of infrastructure. And every concurrent use adds to their expenses.
     
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  13. Rich

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    I dunno why folks find this so difficult. It's pretty obvious the UI on the Fire TV devices isn't nearly as easy to use as the NF UI. But it's not that hard. Amazon did a pretty good job of using the NF UI as a template. The Hulu interface can be baffling, I can understand folks getting turned off by that.

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    Have you rooted thru all the Australian series on NF? Some really good series there. Wentworth is a very compelling series. I have yet to watch an Australian series that I didn't like. Just go to Search on the NF app and put in "Australian", lots of good stuff.

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  15. Rich

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    NetFlix is easily the best bang for your buck you can get, I think. But this is always a subjective argument. Folks that just try it briefly are never gonna understand why we think it is so good.

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  16. Rich

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    Why?

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  17. Rich

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    Never occurred to me. The FTV devices have the same Prime app as the ATVs? I gotta check that out...yup, it's there. Why? Things like this baffle me. I bought a bunch of FTV devices recently because I don't care for the Prime app on the ATVs.

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  18. lparsons21

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    Why is probably to offer consistency across platforms. Just a guess of course.
    I use the Prime app on my TiVo because it works well and is part of TiVo’s unified search. Hulu and Netflix I generally run on the Xbox One because they are much better on it.
    Btw, did u notice that Epixnow paid streaming service is out now? Works on ATV and iOS and android phones and tablets.


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  19. mjwagner

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    I think the point was, as compared to a sat/cable provider. They certainly don’t have hardware devices to develop/support/maintain. Sure they have apps to develop/support/maintain but that is much less expensive then hardware (for which the sat/cable providers have software to worry about too). And yeah, I know the mantra - satellites and the associated infrastructure costs are virtually negligible/already paid for...yadayadayada...
     
  20. Rich

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    Seems kinda redundant on a Fire TV device. But it can't hurt anything. We rarely use the Fire TVs.

    I did look at Epix NOW when I got the email the other day. Did you see the Saturday fight card on DAZN? Pretty good card.

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