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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by thekochs, Aug 31, 2014.

  1. Oct 9, 2014 #101 of 111
    peds48

    peds48 Genius.

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    Set receiver #2 via the receiver menu to RECEIVER 2.

    Slide switch to DTV
    1. Press and hold MUTE and SELECT (LED flashes twice)
    2. Enter 00002

    Slide switch to TV
    1. Press and hold MUTE and SELECT (LED flashes twice)
    2. Enter 11423
     
  2. Oct 9, 2014 #102 of 111
    thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

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    Well, I tried what you said and no luck on the RC32 remote.....it kept giving me when I hit the Volume or TV Power button the "you have hit a button for your TV and it is it not yet programmed......blah blah message". I tried not only the key strokes you suggested for "TV" slider position but also did on the on screen menu for LG....same result.

    So, I had like a zillion of these older DTV remotes so I pulled out a RC65R, put batteries in it, tried all the slider DTV, AV1, AV2 positions and zero response.....which is what I guessed because I'm betting this remote was never used, ever. So, I just did the DTV 00002 (receiver already set as #2) and TV 11423 and BANG....worked like a champ right off.

    So, now I have one remote for Receiver 3 at 00003 code set that also has LG TV Volume/ON-OFF and Receiver 2 code set 00002 that also controls same "type" LG TV in other room. I tested with both TVs/HR23s on and no conflicts with IR commands blasted thru the pickups to the emmitters on front of STBs.

    Also, per this thread my Genie & Minis are all using the RC72 remotes in RF mode......no conflicts as you would expect.

    Only question.....I assume the RC32 remote that was giving me trouble is mucked up.
    How do you do a full factory reset on it ?.......not just a IR or RF change but full defaults reset ?
    Thx.
     
  3. Oct 9, 2014 #103 of 111
    peds48

    peds48 Genius.

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    With the remote in any position

    Slide switch to any position
    1. Press and hold MUTE and SELECT (LED flashes twice)
    2. Enter 981
     
  4. thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

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    So my Genie + three Minis + two HR24s has been working great.
    One itemed happened today that I wanted to ask....since I know the Genie can handle 5 recordings.
    My wife started a "mass" recordings of a bunch of the free HBO/Showtime/etc. movies off the Genie and left for the day....not sure how many she had going/scheduled. I was hoem alone watching Patriots/Ravens f-ball game on one of the Minis and she came home and turned on the Genie....other two minis off, two HRs off. My mini and her Genie locked up. I had to do a hard reboot of both. We then saw alot of recordings going on simultaniously so she canceled and reschedule them out "staggered" in time. I can only assume the MPEG encoders/decoders were full with the recordings but I assumed my mini had one of it's own ?.........or do minis consume resource/decoder from the genie ?

    Also, I would have assumed if resources were tapped out when she turned on the Genie it would have given her a message rather than locking everthing up.

    Let me know thoughts/math on all this....I get confused on how may of what I have. :)

    Update
    I found on post #10 of this thread........
    You have 5 tuners .
    PIP is going to use 2.
    That leaves 3 left for recording or watching live tv from clients.
    Genie will not stream more than 3 remote rooms at once.

    Does Mini take a tuner when viewing recorded show ?
     
  5. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    The clients (minis) don't have tuners per se, so when watching live it takes up one, but via a recording, it shouldn't.
     
  6. thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

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    Thx....so here is the issue I have found....not sure if it is new firmware on the Genie & Minis or not.
    If I am wathcing LIVE TV on a mini and some shows are recording on the Genie via scheduler if the limit of 5 is exceeded the Mini & Genie locks up.
    I CAN repeat this failure on any of my minis (I have three) and it comes down to the very second something requirtes a 6th resourse (ie. recoriding) trys to kickoff. I would think the "Genie" would be smart enough to know how many resources are being consumed and put up a message on the Genie & Minis that "Channel will switch to blah, blah or cancel recording, etc.". On my HR24s I used to see this type message all the time.
    Something is wrong/broke in the firmware on this.

    Also, while I've never tried this I wonder what would happen if I have five recordings going and no TVs (Genie or Minis) turned on....THEN try to turn the Genie or a Mini on....would I get a message ? ......lockup ? .......what ?

    Thx !
     
  7. peds48

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    The Genie or minis is supposed to tune in to any of the 5 current recordings
     
  8. thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

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    That is what I figured but the December firmware must have a bug.....instead it locks everything up...have to do a power plug pull....not good.
    It is easy to test...........turn one Mini on Line TV with 4 recordings "going" from Genie........then have another (that'll make 6 tuners) program scheduled to record before the other 4 + 1 stop. When the sixth "resource" (recording) kicks off it'll all lock up. I can repeat this each and every time. I don't know how to tell DirecTV engineers but assume this Forum can inform ?

    The other thing to check which I have not.....tired of having to power cycle my STBs.......is if 5 recodings are going and you turn on the Genie or Mini does as you say it tune to one of the recordings ? ......or lock ?
     
  9. Laxguy

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    I've done that in the past and had no lock up.

    But in the real world, if you knew you were recording five, you'd leave it alone and not try to do a sixth.
     
  10. thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

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    Have you tried this since the December firmware updates ? ....if not, try it.....would like to see you you find out.

    Also, I respecfully disagree about your "real world" statement.
    I have two kids and wife oin the house and they may schedule something to record.....the Genie does not tell them there is an issue with resources.
    It is not like they are setting all five recordings at one sitting.
    Also, no one knows how many recordings are going on at one time with all TVs off.
    You could have as little as two ecordings going on an the Genie & 3 Minis get turned on at one time to whatever live TV channel they are set to and bang, lockup. My point is that the firmware needs to monitor this activity/requests and respond accordingly. I think it does/DID but clearly something has changed in latest firmware. Again, I have not tried to have 5 recordings going and then turn on a TV......but I have been on a live TV (mini) and 4 recordings going and a 5th kicks in....lock up.

    Perhaps I'm the only one seeing this...but I would doubt it.......thought it may be worth telling this scenario and have someone test.
     
  11. Mar 4, 2018 #111 of 111
    thekochs

    thekochs DirecTV 10yr+ Customer

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    OK...old thread but question has come up......
    So, to save cost I took 2 or 3 minis off my account (driving TV in other areas of house never used)........so has been Genie & one mini (Master Bedroom).
    The kids have two HR44 DVRs (one for son, one for daughter)....all units "Whole Home".
    Recently, my son's DVR died......so removed from account and just attached his "TV" (via Component Video splitter) to the Genie....no real conflict since in large Den and no one watching TV there when he watches TV at night before bed.
    Now it appears my daughters HR44 is starting to die....maybe week or month or so.
    Thus, when this happens my plan is to reactivate the two minis previously on account and remove daughters DVR.
    This would mean one Genie, 3 Minis.
    My questions.........
    1) If I do the above can I get rid of the Whole Home $3 charge ?
    2) Genie has "5" tuners ? ........trying to figure out how many simultaneous recordings and watching live shows is possible ?
    3) With above how does it change if someone watching a recorded show ?

    Thx.
     

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