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Home theater reccomendations? (for use with D* Receivers)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by doubleatheman, Jan 2, 2008.

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  1. Jan 4, 2008 #81 of 130
    GregLee

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    Oh yes, no doubt. "Build quality" meaning, mainly, how heavy they are. So if you want something hard to lift, be sure to invest that extra $18,000.
     
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    JeffBowser

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    Without any malice whatsoever to either party, that was just plain funny :lol:

     
  3. Jan 4, 2008 #83 of 130
    hdtvfan0001

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    None taken.

    But actually....the point was obviously missed. By the way, my unit IS heavy. :D
     
  4. Jan 4, 2008 #84 of 130
    JeffBowser

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    :lol: Takes a lot to drive serious current - a quality amp will have big caps, big transformers, big SRD's, big heat sinks; big big big = heavy heavy heavy.

     
  5. Jan 4, 2008 #85 of 130
    houskamp

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    40? geez I wouldn't even bother to install something that small... got to remember that in surround sound most of your audio comes from one speaker (center) at a time... I am so glad I bought the one I have (1000w total/ 130 per channel) any less and I'd have it maxed out all the time...
    P.S. whole setup cost 450$...
     
  6. Jan 4, 2008 #86 of 130
    JeffBowser

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    40w is on the small side, but watch how it is rated - you want RMS wattage, 8 ohm driven, per channel, ideally at less than .1% THD across the audible range. Of course, your cheaper amps will rate gross wattage, a .7%, at 1Khz. All that geek-speak aside, as it has been pointed out here a few times - establish your budget FIRST, and get what you can.
     
  7. Jan 4, 2008 #87 of 130
    Toddwrtr

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    Sounds like you have a modest budget.

    Yamaha seems to have the most bang for the buck. That is what I have now (receiver and speakers).

    My second choice would be Pioneer for the receiver, and Yamaha speakers.

    My last receiver was a Sony, and it sounded awful. Had a Pioneer before that, and it sounded wonderful.
     
  8. Jan 4, 2008 #88 of 130
    JeffBowser

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    I've had Sonys for years, mine sounded terrific, but now we are just descending into opinion. I don't know anything about Yamaha, other than a million years ago I had a proprietary surround getup of theirs that suffered mainly from a lack of power. Pioneer is a fine beginning receiver brand. Again, opinion here.

     
  9. Jan 4, 2008 #89 of 130
    hdtvfan0001

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    Mine weighs 48.5 pounds.

    Yup...my Amp pulls a fair amount of juice (11Amps)...even though it supposedly "green". I get a kick out of that term...not sure it really has alot of merit in many cases. I guess at 200W per channel (7.1 THX rated), that's not too bad.
     
  10. Jan 4, 2008 #90 of 130
    JeffBowser

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    Now that's a sweet amp, I don't care what name tag is glued to the box - 200watts THX rated, and nearly 50lbs, yup, I'll take one 'o dem :D

     
  11. Jan 4, 2008 #91 of 130
    houskamp

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    "Green" refers to standby power...
    And don't forget generates alot of heat :eek2: :D
     
  12. Jan 4, 2008 #92 of 130
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    The Sony HT-DDW790, the system of interest, is rated at 800W gross wattage driving 6 ohms at less than 10% THD at 1KHz. Some reviewers have remarked that it seems underpowered. But its street price is $170 at most, and I saw that one person claimed to have paid less than $100 at Fry's.
     
  13. Jan 4, 2008 #93 of 130
    JeffBowser

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    6ohms at 10% is indicative of a grossly inflated wattage rating. Acceptible (read "inaudible") distortion should be less than .1% across 20hz - 20Khz not 10% at 1Khz. It does not say anywhere what its RMS rating is. I'd look away from this one, unless you have a small room, or don't need a lot of volume.

    Here - this is the real story behind that box: Stereo mode (rated) (6 ohms 1 kHz, THD 1%) 85 W + 85 W see: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/htib/sony-ht-ddw790
     
  14. Jan 4, 2008 #94 of 130
    houskamp

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    130@.08... good to go :D
     
  15. Jan 4, 2008 #95 of 130
    hdtvfan0001

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    The top of the line Onkyo...
    I have to heat my home somehow, right? :lol:
     
  16. Jan 4, 2008 #96 of 130
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    Pioneer Elite are excellent receivers; even their lower end stuff is really good. I use the latter along with a high end 7.1 Marantz, and to be honest, I prefer the Pioneer.

    Of course I have a 17 month old and rarely get to "crank" it anymore...:D

    Cool thing about Pioneer is they support WMA Pro 9...
     
  17. Jan 4, 2008 #97 of 130
    Maverickster

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    Amen to this. Save your money until you can afford a respectable entry level system (as described by Spartan Stew). Also, Audiogon, AVS Forum Marketplace, and eBay are good sources for used speakers. You don't need to spend thousands, but you will probably end up spending right around $1K if you do it "right". I have a nice entry-level system, and here's what I got:

    Receiver: Harman-Kardon AVR 347 ($400 on a Amazon Special)
    Speakers L/C/R: Paradigm Cinema 110s ($300 on Audiogon)
    Speakers Surrounds: Paradigm Cinema ADPs ($90 on eBay)
    Sub: SVS PB12-ISD ($300 on AVS Forum Marketplace)
    Cabling: Monoprice

    Like anything else, I could have spent quite a bit more and gotten a better system, but the difference would probably have been largely lost on me. The differences between a system like this and even a very good HTiB, though, are dramatic enough to be worth the upgrade, imho. And, yes, a good receiver, good speakers, and a good sub do, in fact, make a world of difference in the experience -- even to non-audiophiles like myself.
     
  18. Jan 4, 2008 #98 of 130
    cwdonahue

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    I came up with 40W because it's probably the least amount of power you can apply to a decent speaker. I do have some experience with that, too. I was considering the intent to stay in the HTIB category and assumed a low budget = low power. I would assume the HTIB vendor will match the sensitivity of their speakers to the receiver output power to get the most sound per Watt out of the speaker. Should have stated RMS, all channels driven at 8 OHMs, etc. as other qualifiers. You're right. Power ratings can be in the "lies, damn lies, and statistics" category. 6 OHMs is a favorite way to quote power ratings and make them look better.
     
  19. Jan 4, 2008 #99 of 130
    hasan

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    Bose: overpriced and underperforming.

    Onkyo 605 with HDMI switching works fine for me, as have my prior two Onkyo receivers.
     
  20. Jan 4, 2008 #100 of 130
    njeske

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    Rancho...
    just got an Onkyo TX-SR705 and it's great!
     
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