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Hopefully 2009 will be a better year than 2008 for us: DirecTV on wrong track IMO

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by PennHORN, Dec 24, 2008.

  1. wingrider01

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    And your point is? This type of action is the main reason I am currently in negotiations to switch to a different provider for the business. Tired of having patients that compain because directv pulled a HD channel because of something they have no interest in.

    BTW pay a lot more the a measely 90 a month for the business package, would love to see it that low.
     
  2. Jeremy W

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    Apparently completely missed by you.
    That's funny, because they haven't done it since last year.
     
  3. wingrider01

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    Vista is a "implied loser" simpley because people don;t understand it and are not willing to learn something, goes a long way to proving the old adage of "sometimes it helps to be smarter then the machine", the problem came in when they did not put the stronger security model in XP, the model was there and ready to be implemented but it was not. Not to far fromt eh time that 3rd party manufacturers start dropping development of drivers for XP. 99 percne to f XP users just did a administrator level account and went with it - not the brightest thing in the world especially if you keep personal records on a machine.

    The only drivers that where hard to come by when it was releasedare for hardware that is 2 or 3 years out of date - this is NOT the fault of MS, but the fault of the company that designed the hardware, but then again it was the same exact thing when XP hit the streets, major difference is XP drivers can be used in Vista 32 bit where as they cannot int he 64 bit - the XP-64 release was a joke
     
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    But that raises another complaint about these channels (MTV, CMT, VH-1). It's NOT lack of HD programming because many times they do broadcast HD content...in SD.

    Like I've said before, how many times has a program been broadcast in HD on MHD (Palladium) the same time that it was being simulcast on MTV or CMT in SD in 16:9 with black bars all around? What is the excuse for that?
     
  5. Doug Brott

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    Couple of things .. This was ONLY TNT HD .. TNT SD was still available and most importantly .. Jeremy's right .. This hasn't been done for about a year now .. There's nothing here to complain about now.
     
  6. TigersFanJJ

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    Sure, technically it is a valid claim but it doesn't make it right. I believe that when you claim to have something, you should deliver it. Saying "We have MTVHD" when there isn't any hd on MTV is really nothing more than slimy used car salesman tactics (no offense to any honest used car salesmen out there). "A/C blows cold." Yeah, in the dead of winter only.
     
  7. Jeremy W

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    DirecTV is delivering it. If you want to put the blame somewhere, put it on MTV for offering MTVHD with little to no HD content. Don't blame DirecTV for simply passing on what they're given.
     
  8. aa9vi

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    I would hope D* gets its head out its rear and builds a box with an internal OTA tuner and channel scan. I have been holding on to my one H20 for a long time. I want ALL of my local channels and OTA is the only way to get them. Tribune Media/Zap-it is often too slow to respond to local subchannel changes. Waiting weeks for the guide updates is unreasonable. That's lost money for D* since I'm not upgrading that receiver. I'll upgrade that box to an HD-DVR when they build a new one that has two of the features of a HD receiver from 2003.

    Plus, what's the holdup with local weather on the 8s for TWC-HD?
     
  9. harsh

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    DIRECTV continues to claim MTV-HD as an HD channel among their other "legitimate" HD offerings and it certainly isn't showing signs of ever becoming one. "HD ready" is not HD.
     
  10. Jeremy W

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    MTVHD has shown HD content, which means you're now getting into the messy area of trying to define an HD channel by how much HD they show. DirecTV passes on MTVHD as MTV presents it to them, which is all they can do. It's not DirecTV's fault that they show little in the way of actual HD. If a company is sending DirecTV an HD signal, DirecTV has an HD channel. It's really that simple.

    I, for one, am glad that DirecTV just scooped it up when they could, instead of putzing around like they are doing now.
     
  11. paulman182

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    If an FM stereo station broadcasts mostly old mono recordings, it is still an FM stereo station.
     
  12. Doug Brott

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    Doesn't DISH and Comcast make the same claims? (assuming they have the channel)

    If the channel is being deliverd in HD (which it is) .. It's an HD channel .. MTV chooses to put the black bars on the side and only show the 4:3 upconverted SD content that it has ..

    So yeah, it's a legitimate claim .. again, DIRECTV does not control the content and cannot make any claims to this content. What if MTV decided tomorrow to actually start putting HD content on their channel? Well, DIRECTV would be showing it because MTVHD is part of the lineup. :shrug:
     
  13. Doug Brott

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    I'm happy that you've found a solution that works for you, but I'm curious how DIRECTV has actually lost money on the deal .. You continue to pay your mirror/lease fee. Presumably and "upgrade" would mean that you replace this receiver with a different one. If you work out a "free" deal or a highly discounted deal that costs DIRECTV money, that mirror/lease fee will be used to pay off the remainder of the receiver costs. Ultimately, it will cost DIRECTV for you to get that upgrade.

    Now, if you chose to cancel the service due to those conditions, then your point makes sense.
     
  14. mhayes70

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    If it is broadcast in HD format(720p or 1081i) then it is an HD channel. It's MTV's choice not to show any show or video's in HD not Directv's. So, Directv has every right too call it an HD channel.
     
  15. mhayes70

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    :lol: If we go by what he is saying then NBC is not going to be an HD channel either. Since they are going the cheap way and doing more reality shows not shot in HD. :)
     
  16. harsh

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    The point here is that you must go out several decimal places to represent the percentage of HD content on MTV-HD but DIRECTV is still promoting it as one. That DIRECTV didn't get what they bargained for is not justification for misleading their subscribers and prospective subscribers. I use the term "misleading" because I'm pretty sure that DIRECTV knows that sustained HD programming isn't coming to MTV-HD any time soon.

    If DIRECTV wants to promote it as "enhanced SD" as compared to their typical SD quality, that's another story.


    For those who missed or forgot my definition of an HD channel, it is one that shows at least 20% HD sourced content in HD.
     
  17. mhayes70

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    Uh, it IS still an HD channel
     
  18. harsh

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    MTV-HD appears to be a DIRECTV exclusive.

    edit: It appears that some Cox systems and some Verizon systems also carry what they call MTV HD.
     
  19. mhayes70

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    Then I guess USA HD, TNT HD, ABC Family HD, NBC, and CW would not be classified and HD channels either. Because some or most of there programing in not in HD either.
     
  20. harsh

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    MTV-HD could be an HD channel.
     

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